Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
While looking out of the window at the conversational snowflakes falling today in the DC area, I decided to research what regions do US Government Agencies Place DC in. I researched over 20 departments/agencies, and I find some interesting and revealing results:
1. DC shows up in the Mid-Atlantic region a majority of the time
2. The US Government treats the Mid-Atlantic as a bonafide region
3. In only one case that I found in the over 20 departments/agencies that I looked at does a bureau of a US Government agency place DC in the "South" region. US Census Bureau.
4. As part of the Department of Commerce, the US Census Bureau is an outlier amongst all the other bureaus under the Department of Commerce regarding the DC region.
4. Philadelphia serves as the regional office for a majority of agencies serving the Mid-Atlantic region. It has a lot of US Government offices.
5. The US Government usually considers, PA, DE, WV, MD, DC, VA as the Mid-Atlantic.
Here is the list of government agencies that I researched, including regional maps:
With the prevalence of Mid-Atlantic region being used by the US Government agencies as well as private companies, why are some people in the general public so resistant to using the term?
Last edited by revitalizer; 02-25-2023 at 04:11 PM..
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
8,197 posts, read 7,663,126 times
Reputation: 5824
Quote:
Originally Posted by revitalizer
Greetings all,
While looking out of the window at the conversational snowflakes falling today in the DC area, I decided to research what regions do US Government Agencies Place DC in. I researched over 20 departments/agencies, and I find some interesting and revealing results:
1. DC shows up in the Mid-Atlantic region a majority of the time
2. The US Government treats the Mid-Atlantic as a bonafide region
3. In only one case that I found in the over 20 departments/agencies that I looked at does a bureau of a US Government agency place DC in the "South" region. US Census Bureau.
4. As part of the Department of Commerce, the US Census Bureau is an outlier amongst all the other bureaus under the Department of Commerce regarding the DC region.
4. Philadelphia serves as the regional office for a majority of agencies serving the Mid-Atlantic region. It has a lot of US Government offices.
5. The US Government usually considers, PA, DE, WV, MD, DC, VA as the Mid-Atlantic.
Here is the list of government agencies that I researched, including regional maps:
With the prevalence of Mid-Atlantic region being used by the US Government agencies as well as private companies, why are some people in the general public so resistant to using the term?
Largely semantics. I think most companies and regular folks call the area the mid-Atlantic. Local DC area weathercasters are pretty clear with their classification as this region being the "mid-Atlantic". And typically when identifying the areas say NJ and northward, those same weathercasters will simply call it the "Northeast". MASN and previously Comcast Sportsnet Mid-Atlantic cover Baltimore and Washington sports teams. Even nationally the Weather Channel refers to the area is the mid-Atlantic.
Based on what I see external (public) facing government functions refer to it as Mid Atlantic. Internal facing functions refer to it as National Capital.
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
8,197 posts, read 7,663,126 times
Reputation: 5824
Quote:
Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie
Based on what I see external (public) facing government functions refer to it as Mid Atlantic. Internal facing functions refer to it as National Capital.
I can confirm that "internally" FDIC at least, does place DC/MD and northward in the NY Regional Office. The closest NY regional office being in Columbia, MD. "HQ" offices are in Downtown DC and Arlington. From VA southward it's the Atlanta regional office. Ironically Puerto Rico is thrown in there with the NY regional office too.
That agency specifically goes by a city regional or field office location, and not north, south, east, west, mid etc.
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
8,197 posts, read 7,663,126 times
Reputation: 5824
Quote:
Originally Posted by revitalizer
Thanks for adding this one to the list.
No problem here's OSHA:
PA/MD/DC/VA/DE/WV all belong to the Philadelphia region 3.
Region 1: Boston
Region 2: New York
Region 3: Philadelphia
Region 4: Atlanta
Region 5: Chicago
Region 6: Dallas
Region 7: Kansas City
Region 8: Denver
Region 9: San Francisco
Region 10: Seattle
I can confirm that "internally" FDIC at least, does place DC/MD and northward in the NY Regional Office. The closest NY regional office being in Columbia, MD. "HQ" offices are in Downtown DC and Arlington. From VA southward it's the Atlanta regional office. Ironically Puerto Rico is thrown in there with the NY regional office too.
That agency specifically goes by a city regional or field office location, and not north, south, east, west, mid etc.
But are the HQ offices considered part of the NY regional office? To me, the fact that they align the sub components into a relatively distant region isn't surprising if the agency is on the smaller side. FDIC has 5,600 employees, total. If they didn't align it to NY I'm guessing the DMV offices would fall under a mid-Atlantic umbrella. I think a lot of this question relates to the size and scope of the individual agency, as well as how much the agency deals with the general public via field offices.
Last edited by bostongymjunkie; 02-28-2023 at 06:24 PM..
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
8,197 posts, read 7,663,126 times
Reputation: 5824
Quote:
Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie
But are the HQ offices considered part of the NY regional office? To me, the fact that they align the sub components into a relatively distant region isn't surprising if the agency is on the smaller side. FDIC has 5,600 employees, total. If they didn't align it to NY I'm guessing the DMV offices would fall under a mid-Atlantic umbrella. I think a lot of this question relates to the size and scope of the individual agency, as well as how much the agency deals with the general public via field offices.
The HQ isn't a part of any regional office, because it's above them. For FDIC on the East Coast from Maine to Florida you can only be in either the New York or Atlanta regions. The coverage area of two regions converge at the Potomac River. North of the river is the NY region, South of it all support goes to the Atlanta region. Downtown Washington across from the White House, and Virginia Sq in Arlington have headquarters buildings that national HQ operations take place, but each region of the country reports to those HQ buildings.
In the "regional" and "field offices" is where bank examiners and IT teams support the surrounding states for the FDIC. The smaller field offices report to regional offices. The closest FDIC field offices are the "Baltimore" office (actually located in Columbia, MD), and that office is part of the NY region. And the Richmond, VA field office which is part of the Atlanta region. So a bank examiner working or reporting to the FDIC in Maryland ultimately reports to NY region, and one in VA reports to Atlanta region.
Last edited by the resident09; 02-28-2023 at 07:12 PM..
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
