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There was a gang-related shootout in Shaw over the weekend, killing two. Literally across the street from shiny new apartment buildings. How many white collar employees will want to live in neighborhoods where that kind of stuff goes down?
There was a gang-related shootout in Shaw over the weekend, killing two. Literally across the street from shiny new apartment buildings. How many white collar employees will want to live in neighborhoods where that kind of stuff goes down?
Good thing You don’t live in DC.
NoMa & Navy Yard were the fastest growing neighborhoods in the country and DC is gaining population, so, there’s some sort of demand. In fact, I think DC & Frederick, MD have been the fastest growers by raw number in the DMV
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Shaw isn't exactly a "white collar" area/neighborhood, but it's mostly residential. It sounds like the latest shooting happened at 3am after a club closed. The neighbors have already made it known they want the club closed because it doesn't fit their immediate neighborhood.
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Shaw isn't exactly a "white collar" area/neighborhood.
The apartments right across from the crime scene have tiny one bedrooms going at 2.5k+ and two bedrooms starting close to 4k. I don't think that pricing is aimed at landscapers, mechanics and store clerks. They're advertising them as being in "northwest D.C.", which is technically true, but as you know the mental images associated with that wouldn't imply gang shootings will happen outside your building.
I mean that's clearly been happening all over D.C., 'luxury' type apartment buildings built in neighborhoods that used to be 'no-go' areas and are still within a stone's throw of communities where street crime is a fact of life.
The apartments right across from the crime scene have tiny one bedrooms going at 2.5k+ and two bedrooms starting close to 4k. I don't think that pricing is aimed at landscapers, mechanics and store clerks. They're advertising them as being in "northwest D.C.", which is technically true, but as you know the mental images associated with that wouldn't imply gang shootings will happen outside your building.
I mean that's clearly been happening all over D.C., 'luxury' type apartment buildings built in neighborhoods that used to be 'no-go' areas and are still within a stone's throw of communities where street crime is a fact of life.
Costar has new Class A apartment buildings in DC proper hovering around 95% which is where stabilized buildings are supposed to be. DC is growing faster than almost all urban cities around America and that has been happening every year for over a decade now.
The apartments right across from the crime scene have tiny one bedrooms going at 2.5k+ and two bedrooms starting close to 4k. I don't think that pricing is aimed at landscapers, mechanics and store clerks. They're advertising them as being in "northwest D.C.", which is technically true, but as you know the mental images associated with that wouldn't imply gang shootings will happen outside your building.
I mean that's clearly been happening all over D.C., 'luxury' type apartment buildings built in neighborhoods that used to be 'no-go' areas and are still within a stone's throw of communities where street crime is a fact of life.
What’s your theory on Washington being one of the hottest markets, rising rents and growing faster than Northern Virginia counties/cities?
Crime? Carjackings?
They now have undercover authorities in metro dresses in civilian clothing busting fare evaders, on top of the new gates, additional law enforcement, law enforcement walking through metro trains. Secure DC was just passed.
What’s your theory on Washington being one of the hottest markets, rising rents and growing faster than Northern Virginia counties/cities?
Crime? Carjackings?
They now have undercover authorities in metro dresses in civilian clothing busting fare evaders, on top of the new gates, additional law enforcement, law enforcement walking through metro trains. Secure DC was just passed.
I don't care one way or another about some D.C. vs NoVa growth pissing contest. The reality of it is that crime does affect things or why do you think a body like D.C. city council has passed the Secure DC bill in the first place. 3-4 years ago they were all about 'eff the police'. Might have something to do with stuff like shootings and carjackings happening near the homes of people with money and influence?
As long as D.C. is the seat of the federal government and the federal government grows in size, D.C. will attract growth. Even in the darkest days of D.C. there were neighborhoods of extreme wealth and status in D.C., so yeah people will still wanna live in D.C. but perhaps not *everywhere* in D.C.
Gentrification opened up a lot of areas that were considered off-limits as recently as 10-15 years ago. But gentrification needs public safety backing. We'll see where all of this is going and whether the new measures have any teeth.
I don't care one way or another about some D.C. vs NoVa growth pissing contest. The reality of it is that crime does affect things or why do you think a body like D.C. city council has passed the Secure DC bill in the first place. 3-4 years ago they were all about 'eff the police'. Might have something to do with stuff like shootings and carjackings happening near the homes of people with money and influence?
As long as D.C. is the seat of the federal government and the federal government grows in size, D.C. will attract growth. Even in the darkest days of D.C. there were neighborhoods of extreme wealth and status in D.C., so yeah people will still wanna live in D.C. but perhaps not *everywhere* in D.C.
Gentrification opened up a lot of areas that were considered off-limits as recently as 10-15 years ago. But gentrification needs public safety backing. We'll see where all of this is going and whether the new measures have any teeth.
There’s no contest between NoVa and DC. If there were, I’m sure Northern Virginia would be winning and you’d be letting us know. My point was, you’re being alarmist about Washington when there’s things across the river you could equally worry about. How can you lecture about whether people will leave (or not move to) Washington when it’s among the strongest growing areas of the DMV for now two consecutive census estimates along with Fredrick, MD? It’s just contradictory to say people won’t move to Washington because of crime as you sit in an area that is growing les… if that was such a black & white correlation, then I’d assume Northern Virginia must have more shootings and carjackings?
You’re talking about 4 years ago, when the entire world was shut down. No one was spared. The entire world, literally. Some places you couldn’t even leave your home. We couldn’t eat in restaurants. This thread is about the end of 2024…. If this thread were “why didn’t DC pass the Secure DC bill 4 years ago”, then I’d be agreeing with you more. But here we are, in 2024, vastly different times than 2020
Washington still isn’t anywhere near its peak population so I’m not sure growth is all but guaranteed.
Basically, the conclusion I get from you is: DC is scary but people will still want to live in it. Seems a bit contradictory to your earlier prognosis that people will start leaving?
There’s no contest between NoVa and DC. If there were, I’m sure Northern Virginia would be winning and you’d be letting us know. My point was, you’re being alarmist about Washington when there’s things across the river you could equally worry about. How can you lecture about whether people will leave (or not move to) Washington when it’s among the strongest growing areas of the DMV for now two consecutive census estimates along with Fredrick, MD? It’s just contradictory to say people won’t move to Washington because of crime as you sit in an area that is growing les… if that was such a black & white correlation, then I’d assume Northern Virginia must have more shootings and carjackings?
You’re talking about 4 years ago, when the entire world was shut down. No one was spared. The entire world, literally. Some places you couldn’t even leave your home. We couldn’t eat in restaurants. This thread is about the end of 2024…. If this thread were “why didn’t DC pass the Secure DC bill 4 years ago”, then I’d be agreeing with you more. But here we are, in 2024, vastly different times than 2020
Washington still isn’t anywhere near its peak population so I’m not sure growth is all but guaranteed.
Basically, the conclusion I get from you is: DC is scary but people will still want to live in it. Seems a bit contradictory to your earlier prognosis that people will start leaving?
I never said people will start leaving D.C.. I said that gentrification in some areas will hit a road block unless crime is gotten under control. If it's not, growth in those areas will slow or cease entirely, that's my prognosis.
I never said people will start leaving D.C.. I said that gentrification in some areas will hit a road block unless crime is gotten under control. If it's not, growth in those areas will slow or cease entirely, that's my prognosis.
Well, I can agree with that prognosis, completely.
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