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Old 08-27-2010, 02:03 PM
 
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My least fav- Now- hot and yuck. Don't like humidity either. I hate summer time.


My fav- Autumn season and Winter Season, temps- in the 60's-low 70's for the high, cool crisp air Ahhhhh Would be perfect weather for me year round- I so love wearing jeans and boots! I don't like shorts.
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Old 08-27-2010, 03:05 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Are you forgetting that southern hemisphere sun is much stronger than northern hemisphere sun?

If Chester lives at the 37 S parallel, in summer it'd be equivalent to living at the 27 N parallel (Miami?)
I would expect that Aukland sees UV forecast at 12 sometimes, maybe 13.
Really? I know that the Earth is closer to the Sun during southern summer but it is only about 3% closer so its a marginal difference. Anything else I'm missing?
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Really? I know that the Earth is closer to the Sun during southern summer but it is only about 3% closer so its a marginal difference. Anything else I'm missing?
Ozone Hole (much larger over the Southern Hemisphere)
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Old 08-27-2010, 03:50 PM
 
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I knew the Ozone Hole existed over Antarctica. Had no idea that it extended as far north as NZ but I guess it does (NZ is somewhat on the border):

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Old 08-27-2010, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Really? I know that the Earth is closer to the Sun during southern summer but it is only about 3% closer so its a marginal difference. Anything else I'm missing?
The southern hemisphere also has cleaner air than the northern hemisphere.
World weather patterns are almost entirely segregated at the equator, so it makes sense that most of the industrial crap stays here.
More land area, so likely we have more forest fires and volcanos.
Most of the southern hemisphere is just vast sea.

*Heard it on the internet, some scientists believing it's their cleaner air

You get the reverse in places like Asia.
I've heard Seoul's sunshine feeling gentler (at 38 N?) than Toronto at 43 N, likely from Chinese pollution and dust from the Gobi desert blowing in from the west.
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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Really? I know that the Earth is closer to the Sun during southern summer but it is only about 3% closer so its a marginal difference. Anything else I'm missing?
Radiation falls off according to an inverse square law, so you get about 6% higher solar radiation during the southern summer. Still pretty marginal though...

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I knew the Ozone Hole existed over Antarctica. Had no idea that it extended as far north as NZ but I guess it does (NZ is somewhat on the border):
It's not a 'hole' as such, but a region of relatively low ozone concentration. So Chile, Argentina, NZ, etc. may have higher UV levels on account of this.

So the combined effect of lower ozone concentration, higher radiation and lower air polution makes for somewhat higher UV levels in a southern summer compared to the same northern latitude. Winters are about the same.

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Old 08-27-2010, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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If Chester lives at the 37 S parallel, in summer it'd be equivalent to living at the 27 N parallel (Miami?)
I would expect that Aukland sees UV forecast at 12 sometimes, maybe 13.
I'm in Christchurch, same absolute latitude as you!

Apparently, Miami has much higher UV than Auckland:

Auckland Climate Guide, New Zealand - Weather2Travel.com

Miami Climate Guide, Florida - Weather2Travel.com

In fact, Miami seems to have slightly higher UV levels than similar latitudes in Australia for some reason:

Monkey Mia Climate Guide, Western Australia - Weather2Travel.com

Christchurch has higher UV than Toronto:

Christchurch Climate Guide, New Zealand - Weather2Travel.com

Toronto Climate Guide, Ontario - Weather2Travel.com
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Old 08-28-2010, 12:35 AM
 
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I'm in Christchurch, same absolute latitude as you!

Apparently, Miami has much higher UV than Auckland:

Auckland Climate Guide, New Zealand - Weather2Travel.com

Miami Climate Guide, Florida - Weather2Travel.com

In fact, Miami seems to have slightly higher UV levels than similar latitudes in Australia for some reason:

Monkey Mia Climate Guide, Western Australia - Weather2Travel.com

Christchurch has higher UV than Toronto:

Christchurch Climate Guide, New Zealand - Weather2Travel.com

Toronto Climate Guide, Ontario - Weather2Travel.com
From those links, it looks like Miami and Auckland have the same high UV level - 11. Although, Miami has 5 months where the UV averages 11 whereas Auckland has only 3 months. I'm not sure if that was what you referring to. However you want to look at it though, 11 is a pretty strong UV level in my book. I guess it goes to show that the lack of pollution and thinning of ozone at the southern latitudes really does have a significant effect.
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Old 08-28-2010, 12:39 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Most favorite: Cool and temperate marine climates... like San Francisco, where I currently live (and have lived for ~20 years). There IS a reason we pay so much to live here!

Least favorite: Hot and humid... anywhere in Florida or the deep south comes to mind.
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Old 08-28-2010, 05:57 AM
 
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Really? I know that the Earth is closer to the Sun during southern summer but it is only about 3% closer so its a marginal difference. Anything else I'm missing?

I recall our teacher telling us that the sun is farther from the earth in summer, but the rays are more direct due to the angle.

Who is right?

Her or you ?

Anybody know ?
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