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Old 10-23-2014, 07:13 AM
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Much too late for me to be eating dinner, especially for a lark like me. That's one thing I liked about Florida - everyone likes to eat early...lol. (Early bird specials and the like.)
McDonald's was advertising breakfast starting at 9 am! Weird since fast food breakfast is meant for people on the run... an early schedule. The Madrid subway was packed around 9 pm, I think it was busier then than 5 pm!

 
Old 10-23-2014, 07:15 AM
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Well you are saying you don't want late sunrises yet you are taking 55N sunsets.
The sunrise time we have now is fine. 8 am isn't. That is what I'm saying. The usual reason given for switching back is so children don't go to school in the dark.
 
Old 10-23-2014, 07:16 AM
 
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I know but we don't live at your latitude, we don't need to deal with sunrise times that late. It would be 8:30 for many on the western half of the time zones, my times are earlier than most. And yes, 8 am is considered unacceptably late for sunrise here, no one cares that it's normal in the UK.
I agree sunrise time perception vary by latitude.
Fact : 6am is considered as late sunrise time for folks in Java.
As I've said earlier schools there can start before 7am, maybe in the 6:30-6:45 range or even earlier. So 6am sunrise there is the same as 8am sunrise in the western world, according to the folks schedule.
 
Old 10-23-2014, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I don't think it has much to do with the time zone setting but the work schedule and evening culture of going out. End of work time has little to with sunset — midlatitude times are too variable for that. The Spanish have long working hours but take frequent long breaks (terrible for working women with children, or really any parent). Instead of staying home afterward, they often go back out to a restaurant or bar or just stroll around the center of the city.
That's what I noticed about Latin American countries - the streets are jammed with people even at 10 or 11 at night. Certainly not that way around here....lol.
 
Old 10-23-2014, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Northern Ireland
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The sunrise time we have now is fine. 8 am isn't. That is what I'm saying. The usual reason given for switching back is so children don't go to school in the dark.
So your taking an early sunset in response?
 
Old 10-23-2014, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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McDonald's was advertising breakfast starting at 9 am! Weird since fast food breakfast is meant for people on the run... an early schedule. The Madrid subway was packed around 9 pm, I think it was busier then than 5 pm!
So basically, they just shifted their day forward, so what we do at 8 is done at 9 there.

Time is just arbitrary numbers, if you think about it. I do feel Atlanta is more of a "lark" city, with work hours shifted earlier than you might find elsewhere, and people doing things earlier in the evening, etc.
 
Old 10-23-2014, 07:21 AM
 
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What do the locals think of that? Do they just take it as it comes, or is there a desire to re-center the solar noon? Argentina has the same sort of situation with their solar noon, especially on the western edge. (Something like 1:30 pm in mid-winter.)
Argentina uses the year-round DST concept, even more like double-DST in the western.

New years eve in Tierra del fuego at 55N is actually still nautical twilight at the years change, 12:00am 1th January.
 
Old 10-23-2014, 07:23 AM
 
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So basically, they just shifted their day forward, so what we do at 8 is done at 9 there.

Time is just arbitrary numbers, if you think about it. I do feel Atlanta is more of a "lark" city, with work hours shifted earlier than you might find elsewhere, and people doing things earlier in the evening, etc.
So I think Atlanta must move to central time, due to the schedule.
 
Old 10-23-2014, 07:25 AM
 
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So your taking an early sunset in response?
If I live there then yeah. School children. Don't be like in Eastern time Indiana.

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Old 10-23-2014, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Argentina uses the year-round DST concept, even more like double-DST in the western.

New years eve in Tierra del fuego at 55N is actually still nautical twilight at the years change, 12:00am 1th January.
Yeah, but in eastern Brazil, which is still in the same time zone, it's the opposite - it got dark earlier there near the equator than it did in Bariloche in the middle of winter. Weird stuff with time zones, for sure.
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