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Old 05-25-2012, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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Not 2000 meters, but something like 2500 feet (13,300 down to 10,700) The higher elevation is the Altiplano, a very high plateau that basically ends in a cliff that overlooks the city, which is actually nestled in a huge valley, with a really tall mountain rising behind it (like 22,000 feet I think). I visited there on my backpacking tour around South America, and the air was so thin that I flew down to Chile a day early so I could get some...gasp...oxygen...lol. Breathing never felt so good once I landed at sea level after the 30 minute flight from the world's highest commercial airport....lol.
In 4 days there I didn't notice the oxygen shortage at all. Possibly having a daytrip to a Chilean mountain a week or so before helped acclimatisation.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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Looking at one of the pics in the Wikipedia article, there's a street with a row of healthy looking Canary Island date palms

With a highest average high of 15 and highest low of 3C, and average lows of 0C or under 4 months of the year I find it hard to believe the picture.
The lower elevations would probably be about 5 C warmer than the airport, so that means highs in the 17 - 20 C range year-round and lows of 3 - 8 C. Add to that the hot sun and CIDP's should have no problem. After all, they have no problem here in Christchurch with a similar annual mean temp.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:26 PM
 
Location: London
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I've been thinking about subtropical highland climates and whether they really should be classified as subtropical. The wiki article states that La Paz is subtropical highland but is this really a misnomer? When I look at the stats, there is nothing subtropical about La Paz any more than there would be about Reykjavik or Torshavn.
Should highland climates in the tropics particularly have a different classification structure all their own which doesn't take into account other climate criteria in use by either Koeppen or Trewartha? I know that many climate maps label mountainous areas as "H" but this doesn't really do justice the differences in elevation that produce different climates.

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Perhaps just a sub-category of "subtropical"? I don't really see the need for a totally separate classification. They mirror tropical temperature patterns, but are simply cooler year-round because of altitude, rather than being cooler in "winter", as is the case with classic "subtropical" climates. Perhaps La Paz, is just a little atypical as it's one of the world's highest major cities. But apart from the more extreme cases, the differences with "subtropical proper" is pretty minor, IMO.
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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The lower elevations would probably be about 5 C warmer than the airport, so that means highs in the 17 - 20 C range year-round and lows of 3 - 8 C. Add to that the hot sun and CIDP's should have no problem. After all, they have no problem here in Christchurch with a similar annual mean temp.
At that latitude and altitude solar radiation can be extremely strong.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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At that latitude and altitude solar radiation can be extremely strong.
So 18 C in La Paz feels like 25 C in Christchurch under otherwise identical (sunny) conditions?
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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So 18 C in La Paz feels like 25 C in Christchurch under otherwise identical (sunny) conditions?
Could well do. I also recall being on the western flanks of the Andes in Chile (road to geysers) at about 3000m ASL - clear day, probably barely 15C. Midday sun had to be treated with great respect. Latitude about 22S.
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Old 03-27-2013, 01:55 AM
 
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:19 AM
 
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At first I believed the OP was mentioning La Paz, BC, now I understand better why some call LP Bolivia a "subarctic hellhole"!
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Melbourne Australia
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La Paz deserves the subarctic hellhole title. If La Paz is subtropical, then Hobart is Equatorial Sahara.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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I tend to classify Subtropical Highland climates as "awesome" but La Paz is a little on the chilly side for me. It does seem to be kind of an outlier compared to most of the other Subtropical Highlands I've seen.
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