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Old 05-22-2013, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Laurentia
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I think that might be an error: From what I remember, the population has tripled since the big tornado outbreaks before the 1950's.
I was referring to now versus the 1970's and the 1990's, not pre-WWII tornadoes. The fact that you have to go back to tornadoes in the early 20th century for greater death tolls than in recent years proves the point I've been trying to make.

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Woe.

Latest GFS6z not only has a coastal storm this weekend but temps well below normal.
Hmm...a nor'easter for Memorial Day weekend? Bring it on.
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Currently Below freezing at 4000' across Oregon, Northern Cali, and Washington.(Under the Upper level low) And its snowing in the mountains. If someone has a webcam shot let me know. Thanks!

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Old 05-22-2013, 07:30 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Here


Oregon Mountain WebCams

Its a pity we didn't have hills that high.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Great day to be skiing....out west. Here's live shot of Paradise parking lot at Mt.Rainier in WA 5400' elevation. http://www.nps.gov/mora/photosmultimedia/webcams.htm

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Old 05-22-2013, 08:40 AM
 
Location: USA East Coast
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I was referring to now versus the 1970's and the 1990's, not pre-WWII tornadoes. The fact that you have to go back to tornadoes in the early 20th century for greater death tolls than in recent years proves the point I've been trying to make.


Not sure what you are trying to say (or maybe we are saying the same thing – lol):

My point is that in recent times, say the last 10 or even 20 years….with all the hype about global climate change (be it warmer or cooler), super storms, unprecedented events, …etc…the storms of the past were just as bad if not worse. In the case of tornadoes, the ones with the most death, the longest tracks, most damage…etc still eclipses today’s events. I think we forget (or it gets lost in the media hype) that what we might think are unprecedented events are often far from it.

For example there was a post a few pages back about a tornado in Massachuttes a few years back and how bad it was. I remember this event on TV, people said they had NEVER seen anything like it ever in the New England states. Yet, it's easy to forget that if you go back there was always storms that were just as bad and often much worse. Until the 1999 Moore Bridge Creek tornado in 1999 (a really bad tornado).....the MOST damaging tornado (not in dollars, which only shows inflation), but in physical loss was in (of all places) Massachuttes. We forget about these storms.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Even though I probably wont see 30s, I really look forward to this weekend! lol Models have been showing this for over a week now. And lately snow for high peaks are showing up.

NWS Boston which covers northern CT, most of MA and parts of NH.
http://forecast.weather.gov/product....&highlight=off

WEEKEND...TRICKY FORECAST IS PLAYING OUT FOR THE WEEKEND. MODELS HAVE INDICATED THAT THE ELONGATED TROUGH WILL CUT OFF OVER THE MID ATLANTIC AND SLOWLY ROTATE OVER NEW ENGLAND FOR THE WEEKEND. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR MUCH COOLER AIR...WELL BELOW AVG AND EVEN HAS SLOWED DOWN THE TIMING OF PRECIP. BELIEVE THAT PRECIP MAY LINGER INTO SAT...BUT HAVE LOW CONFIDENCE THAT PRECIP WILL OCCUR ON
SUNDAY. FOR NOW HAVE CONTINUED WITH THE SLOW DOWN TREND IN THE FORECAST. EXPECT HIGHS REACHING INTO THE MID TO UPPER 60S WITH LOWS DROPPING INTO THE MID TO UPPER 30S. IF SKIES CLEAR OUT AS THIS COLD POOL SITS OVER US THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT FROST/FREEZE HEADLINES MAY BE NEEDED AS THE ENTIRE REGION IS OFFICIALLY IN THE GROWING SEASON.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:15 AM
 
Location: USA East Coast
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As far as the hoilday weekend....I think it does cool down but I tend to doubt there will be any frost anywhere in the USA. Maybe up in the very top of the northern Great Lakes or Maine.

I've checked a few sources, them seem to show 60's, 70's and 80's for highs....and 40's, 50's, and 60's for lows:






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Old 05-22-2013, 09:48 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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I've got a -2c low for Friday night.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:50 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Great day to be skiing....out west. Here's live shot of Paradise parking lot at Mt.Rainier in WA 5400' elevation. http://www.nps.gov/mora/photosmultimedia/webcams.htm
Thats beautiful. I remain convinced if we had some 5000feet hills that we could retain a ski resort year round. Its such a pity because our freezing level is quite low on average. It will be 2600feet tomorrow.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:51 AM
 
Location: USA East Coast
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I've got a -2c low for Friday night.
Wow, 29 -30 F for a low in late May, that's mighty cold this time of year. We have not had a low below 0 C since early April here along the CT/NYC coast.
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