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Christchurch's coldest month is 6.6C, Dunedin is 6.6C, Motueka is 6.9C, London is 5.1C. So Christchurch and London have a far greater difference between them than Motueka and Dunedin -Your logic is all over the place.
Sun in Christchurch doesn't feel much different to here, which is warm in winter. Your underestimation of that factor, clouds your argument.
why do you keep fiddling around with the figures ?
Church is 5.2 and sunshine is 2100 - you keep exaggerating
Church is 0.5c warmer for the year than London - in fact the lows are lower than London so would see Cidp growing as a real challenge - Porstmouth is far warmer still for lows
I think those photos were taken in the seaside town of Sumner in Christchurch...
Yep, looks like Sumner or Redcliff -the Norfolk pines in the background, aren't seen much away from the beach suburbs. Also a Pohutukawa in the photos which are pretty much coastal in Christchurch's climate.
Post edit: I just recognised, that photo, but didn't at first because the lovely stone wall in front ( see the rubble), must have been wrecked in the earthquake -shows how long since I've been out that way.
why do you keep fiddling around with the figures ?
Church is 5.2 and sunshine is 2100 - you keep exaggerating
Church is 0.5c warmer for the year - but the lows are lower than London so would see Cidp growing as a real challenge - Porstmouth is far warmer still for lows
Sunshine is 2147 hours, coldest month is 6.6C. Official Niwa stats.
There is no challenge to growing CIDP's in Christchurch, or Motueka, which has even colder minimums than Christchurch. There are other palms that grow here happily, that won't grow happily in the UK.
It's about 8C here at the moment, with sunny skies-can already feel the warmth of the sun, even at the low angle. By about 9:00am it will be pleasant enough to sit in the sun with my coffee and shorts/sleeves. -if you have trouble relating to that, then I think that is indicative of the differences between the respective climates, in a practical sense.
Sunshine is 2146, coldest month is 6.6C. Official Niwa stats.
There is no challenge to growing CIDP's in Christchurch, or Motueka, which has even colder minimums than Christchurch.They are palms that grow here happily, that won't grow happily in the UK.
but they do and have done for a century or more - Portsmouth,Torquay ,London -no probs - i'd imagine frost is the foe in NZ and causes real problems
and why is wiki false - i don't get that - why has it not been corrected ?
i doubt that - i would say anywhere 8c and sunny would not feel warm - mild ,but not warm .
8c sunny in Sweden feels like 8c sunny here -and that's a good bit north from here
Yeah, because not feeling the sun in London in January versus feeling it in New Zealand makes no difference. Trust me it does... i have felt the suns strength in winter here even on days where temps are around 40 only... i havent felt either london or sweden so i cant comment. Still, London should see a stronger sun than sweden.
Yeah, because not feeling the sun in London in January versus feeling it in New Zealand makes no difference. Trust me it does... i have felt the suns strength in winter here even on days where temps are around 40 only... i havent felt either london or sweden so i cant comment. Still, London should see a stronger sun than sweden.
well , Church is 43S - so that's only like southern France - North Car is like 35N if that's where you are - i would say there might be a very,very small difference if any at all .
if it was 8c in June when sun is at its highest here it wouldn't even feel warm or strong then
but they do and have done for a century or more - Portsmouth,Torquay ,London -no probs - i'd imagine frost is the foe in NZ and causes real problems
and why is wiki false - i don't get that - why has it not been corrected ?
There are other palms that grow in Christchurch that will not grow anywhere in the UK, even the Scilly Isles. Syagrus romanzoffiana, the Queen palm is one example...
but they do and have done for a century or more - Portsmouth,Torquay ,London -no probs - i'd imagine frost is the foe in NZ and causes real problems
and why is wiki false - i don't get that - why has it not been corrected ?
You might want to research that one a bit more - your statement indicates a low level of knowledge on the subject.
Frost can be a problem for palms in NZ, but of different species, that likely wouldn't grow in the UK.
People get figures from all over the place, that make their way on to wiki.
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