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B87 is the man to ask there - i've never lived in London - but they do grow there .
Heathrow gets about 30 nights per year with frost, and most years the coldest night is -5c / 24f.
Inner London is quite a lot warmer. Days with frost = less than 10, and I'd be very surprised if the coldest night in a typical year got any lower than -2c /28f.
Loquats and kumquats grow and fruit here, and there is at least one grapefruit tree that fruits (in Chelsea). You could also grow lemon, tangerine or kaffir lime (with minor protection in outer London). I think FG said that oranges can grow and fruit in Portsmouth.
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Olives and grapes grow well here. Peaches, cherries apricots, avocados, citrus do as well. It's a big area for pipfruit, as well as kiwifruit and wine production.
My place has got a few citrus, guava, passionfruit, papaya, plums and apples. I grow tamarillos for sale, although it hasn't been a good year. I've got one olive tree which the neighbours have just harvested.
As for the plants that Joe listed, the bolded are also easy to grow in London and the surrounding area. Italicised plants grow but don't always fruit. Olive trees are common in the suburbs, though they do not fruit regularly (though in groves they do). Passionfruit grows here (caerulea), and avocado trees grow but rarely fruit.
Plenty of frost here, with an average of 39 freezing nights a year, and an average low around -4.5C
The issue there will be that the temperature is too cool for too long -if you do get frost damage, it will be too long before regrowth.
You probably get temperatures below - 5C most years there as well, I would think. At -5C here there will usually be a bit of frost burn.
I'm surprised by the amount of frost nights you get. But as you've said the frost doesn't stick around for as long as it does here. The nights are a lot longer and it warms up slower.
I'm surprised by the amount of frost nights you get. But as you've said the frost doesn't stick around for as long as it does here. The nights are a lot longer and it warms up slower.
The interesting thing is how long it can stay in shaded areas. 13C/14C days after a hard frost (-8C) can still see unmelted frosts in shaded areas.
very interesting Joe - probably tells us a little bit about some of the climate differences between here and Moteuka .
Seems the ripening is the difference which may seem strange as heat is the same in London ,although Moteuka looks to have a longer growing /ripening period and gets out the blocks earlier
very interesting Joe - probably tells us a little bit about some of the climate differences between here and Moteuka .
Seems the ripening is the difference which may seem strange as heat is the same in London ,although Moteuka looks to have a longer growing /ripening period and gets out the blocks earlier
The fruit set is crucial, and many citrus will flower through winter. Ripening isn't really reliant on summer heat, as many citrus are ready during winter and spring.
It's too cool for too long to have reliable fruit set and ripening over there.
Hey Torsh, while browsing through old photos on my phone I've learned a couple of things. One of them is that I'm a compulsive photographer who needs professional help. The other thing I've learned is that I have numerous photos of the same locations at different times of the year. This is relevant to the discussion we were having a few pages back about seasonality.
I think the's two are pretty good since they happened to have been taken in the same location, at the same time (6:20am), and exactly 6 months apart. One is from early December and the other is from early June. Nothing remarkable, but I think it's quite an interesting contrast:
December 2016
June 2017
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