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Old 06-24-2017, 03:49 AM
 
Location: Nyon, Switzerland
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Find a Csb climate with a coldest month below 9°C and a hottest month below 16°C outside of South America.
That's easy: whenever looking for a cool weird Csb climate the answer is: Eureka, California (coldest month 8.8C, hottest month 14.7C).
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Old 06-24-2017, 06:11 AM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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Inhabitated place with the lowest hardiness zone in Southern Hemisphere(outside Antarctic) ?
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Old 06-24-2017, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Nyon, Switzerland
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Inhabitated place with the lowest hardiness zone in Southern Hemisphere(outside Antarctic) ?
Island of South Georgia ?
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Old 06-24-2017, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Nyon, Switzerland
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Inhabitated place with the lowest hardiness zone in Southern Hemisphere(outside Antarctic) ?
Another strong candidate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Rinconada,_Peru

However, its weather stats are reported to be unreliable.
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Old 06-24-2017, 06:25 AM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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Another strong candidate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Rinconada,_Peru

However, its weather stats are reported to be unreliable.
It record lowest temperature there is -11.6C, even places at lower altitude have coldest mins.
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Old 06-24-2017, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Nyon, Switzerland
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Ushuaia has a record of -21C. It is however far less extreme than the 2 places I listed above. I suspect you'd find a far greater variety of plants in Ushuaia.

Do you base your hardiness classification purely on the record low temp ? That's probably not a very good way to do it.
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Old 06-24-2017, 08:14 AM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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Ushuaia has a record of -21C. It is however far less extreme than the 2 places I listed above. I suspect you'd find a far greater variety of plants in Ushuaia.

Do you base your hardiness classification purely on the record low temp ? That's probably not a very good way to do it.
Hardiness zone according to USDA is the average lowest min temperature each year

La Quiaca don't have many planta because of it very cold summer.
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Old 06-24-2017, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Nyon, Switzerland
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Surely La Quaiaca is not the place with the lowest hardiness in the S helisphere though ?? I see trees there that would be impossible to grow in the most extreme southern Chilean or Argentinian climates, not to mention the even worse sub-Antarctic islands such as South Georgia...
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Old 06-24-2017, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Esquel, Argentina
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Find a Csb climate with a coldest month below 9°C and a hottest month below 16°C outside of South America.
That's easy: whenever looking for a cool weird Csb climate the answer is: Eureka, California (coldest month 8.8C, hottest month 14.7C).
Indeed that's a weird climate!

Thank you so much! Do you know any other climate with the same requirements?

I'm changing the requirement "outside of South America" to just "outside of Patagonia".
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Old 06-24-2017, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Nyon, Switzerland
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Indeed that's a weird climate!

Thank you so much! Do you know any other climate with the same requirements?

I'm changing the requirement "outside of South America" to just "outside of Patagonia".
There are a few general areas to look for this:

1) Most mountain villages close to the Mediterranean Sea,between 1000m and 2500m would fit that. But not much higher than that, because if winter is below -3C than it would fall outside the Csb classification. Sierra Nevada, Spain is an example of an almost Csb which is not really a Csb because winter is too cold. But Mont Ventoux in France, at about 1400m of altitude is probably a Csb. (the summit is not).

2) The Pacific coast in both S America and N America. Many areas between 35 and 40 degrees of latitude.
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