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Old 04-28-2015, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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I'm just going off my climate, where August is quite a bit warmer than July. I had thought all maritime influenced climates would all be similar.
Nah, maritime climates (or climates that are on an ocean) tend to be more influenced by sea temperature rather than sun angle.

For example, an extreme inland/continental climate (Verkhoyansk) has a December almost as cold as January:

Verkhoyansk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



While Nome, AK on the coast has a February colder than December:

Nome, Alaska - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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I would have thought February colder than January, was common in Continental climates. While subtropical, Oceanic and Med climates would have warmer a February.
No, not really. Look at continental climates in North America - i.e Minneapolis - and February is warmer than December. I think the shorter daylight hours will be the reason.
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:15 PM
 
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No, not really. Look at continental climates in North America - i.e Minneapolis - and February is warmer than December. I think the shorter daylight hours will be the reason.
Yeah, Continental climates respond more to sun angle than Maritime climates.
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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No, not really. Look at continental climates in North America - i.e Minneapolis - and February is warmer than December. I think the shorter daylight hours will be the reason.
That is similar to my climate, where August is warmer than July and June - it makes sense that daylight hours would have an effect, even though the sea temperature is coldest in August.

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Nah, maritime climates (or climates that are on an ocean) tend to be more influenced by sea temperature rather than sun angle.

For example, an extreme inland/continental climate (Verkhoyansk) has a December almost as cold as January:

Verkhoyansk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



While Nome, AK on the coast has a February colder than December:

Nome, Alaska - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Probably true of maritime climates at higher latitudes. But at latitudes like mine (41"S), the stronger sun easily offsets sea temperature lag.
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:25 PM
 
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That is similar to my climate, where August is warmer than July and June - it makes sense that daylight hours would have an effect, even though the sea temperature is coldest in August.



Probably true of maritime climates at higher latitudes. But at latitudes like mine (41"S), the stronger sun easily offsets sea temperature lag.
Climates on the East Coast of the US at similar latitudes have a similar lag as well. NYC is colder in February than December.

I'm surprised where you live is warmer in August than June.

Even in your own country, Auckland is warmer in June than August at 37 S:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auckland#Climate
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:27 PM
 
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February is warmer than December here, but only just. February has the lowest average minimum of the three winter months (0.9C vs 1.1C in Dec and 1.0C in Jan), but also has the highest average maximum (7.5C vs 7.1C in Dec and 7.0C in Jan).

On the coast, however, February is the coldest month, and August is the warmest month, so clear lag there.
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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Vancouver and Seattle are also warmer in February than in January (and January is even warmer than December).
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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Climates on the East Coast of the US at similar latitudes have a similar lag as well. NYC is colder in February than December.

I'm surprised where you live is warmer in August than June.
Yeah it's good. it always feels though spring starts at the start of July.

Works well for summer as well, with February being warmer than January, and March being as warm as December.

Only 0.2C difference between August and June for Auckland,, and probably due to increased frost. August is warmer than July, which are the main indicator months. for seasonal lag.
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:32 PM
 
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Here's Eastbourne on the south coast of England:

Eastbourne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

February is colder than January. August is warmer than July. September is warmer than June. October and May are the same. November is nearly as warm as April.
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Yeah it's good. it always feels though spring starts at the start of July.

Works well for summer as well, with February being warmer than January, and March being as warm as December.

Only 0.2C difference between August and June for Auckland,, and probably due to increased frost. August is warmer than July, which are the main indicator months. for seasonal lag.
Coastal California has the same asymmetric lag, with little winter lag but a large summer lag. Perhaps some similar mechanism is happening where you are.
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