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Old 07-07-2016, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Current view at Visitors Center on Rainier in Washington


https://www.nps.gov/mora/learn/photo...CP_JUMP_696846


I hope that jetstream position destroys that warm PDO.
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:38 AM
 
Location: 30461
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Why would you expect New England to be warmer?
I don't know. I just feel like the much cooler water temps up there are what's responsible for the much less humid conditions found there. I mean, we're talking about an area that's only 1/9th closer (~10 degrees) to the poles than I am.
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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I don't know. I just feel like the much cooler water temps up there are what's responsible for the much less humid conditions found there. I mean, we're talking about an area that's only 1/9th closer (~10 degrees) to the poles than I am.

I wonder what the climate of Japan is like at that latitude as they don't have a cold water current running down their coast like New England.
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I don't know. I just feel like the much cooler water temps up there are what's responsible for the much less humid conditions found there. I mean, we're talking about an area that's only 1/9th closer (~10 degrees) to the poles than I am.
It's between 30 and 60 latitude where the biggest changes happen per degree latitude, so in the mid latitudes, 10° is a huge difference
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
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Seabreeze in Florida summers only affects areas that are within 5 miles of the coast.
I was staying near the coast last month, and when we went to places in the vicinity of I-95 it was noticeably more oppressive. You can't stand on a hotel balcony in front of the ocean and say that Florida feels better.
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:47 AM
 
Location: 30461
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It's between 30 and 60 latitude where the biggest changes happen per degree latitude, so in the mid latitudes, 10° is a huge difference
And it's amplified in eastern North America because you have the cold Hudson Bay fighting the very warm Gulf of Mexico. If the Hudson Bay didn't exist, I imagine the Gulf of Mexico's power would consistently dominate summer weather farther north than where it currently does.
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:50 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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I wonder what the climate of Japan is like at that latitude as they don't have a cold water current running down their coast like New England.
They do? Surface current map of the ocean (click on the "surface current button)

: An Argo tour of the ocean

Sapporo at 43°N, slightly north of Boston has similar means to coastal New England at the same latitude. Big lag, much smaller diurnal range. Island location makes it less continental. Probably a lot more humid than New England, and clearly cloudier. Lots like a clearly worse climate, IMO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapporo#Climate

Winters are interesting: huge snowfalls at the same temperature and only a bit more precipitation than New England. A close latitude equivalent:

NEWBURYPORT 3 WNW, MASSACHUSETTS - Climate Summary
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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It's weatherunderground, of course.


Look here (download the data) .... and here. (scroll down to morning)
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Arundel, FL
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So not only there is lack of breezes here (or in region here) but it DOES feel worse here. So perhaps we aren't comparing the same thing OR perhaps what we experience is simply just worse than what you guys experience using the same conditions. I always felt that was the case and he confirms it for me.

I still think soil type and density of trees or hills plays a big role too.
Oh no, not this crap again. If a station is reporting the same temperature and dew point in FL and CT, it will feel the same. Why on earth would soil type affect temperature perception? Of course it can affect temperature and humidity itself, but you seem to think sandy soil will make the weather seem cooler than another place with the same conditions with clay soil.
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