Palm Trees General Discussion (ice, days, seasons, Canada)
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Yep, there is the Chatham island Nikau, although there is some debate as to whether it's a different species, as they have different features/form. They also have poor adaptation to mainland climates -the only example I've seen around here, struggled with summer conditions and was prone to a type of rot during the summer season.
I've planted some Livistona australis -they are attractive palm at a young age, although the spikes are nasty. Prone to sunburn as well.
Why do people take it so personal when other people don't like palm trees? Lol. The way some people go on here, you would think you insulted a family member or something. Who cares? I don't like palm trees either. Maybe I do take them for "granted" but I find deciduous trees much more interesting.
There are other types of palm trees besides the ones I posted, but I'd say the Trachycarpus are probably the most common. Here's another example (are these Sabal?).
Palm trees often turn brown during the winter, but usually recover during spring. They haven't really gone that dormant this winter as it hasn't gone below 29F yet. I think some palms were killed during winter of 2013-14. It got well down into the teens on multiple occasions and the average low in January was 29F that winter.
I find it hard to believe sabal palms brown out at 29F considering their hardiness.
There is a very long list of palms that do not go brown below 29F. Too long to list here. It takes far more than that to brown out many cold hardy palms like robusta, phoenix palms, livistona, sabals, etc.
These were taken at Mobile, AL airport well west of the city and definitely much colder than the city itself. Low temp there last winter was 17F, while the airport near the city went to 22F.
I took these pics at the airport entrance that went down to 17F. This was a month later after the low of 17F.
These are Phoenix dactylifera. Hard to see with my iphone pic, but the ends of some fronds were brown, but definitely not all the fronds. Also depends on how long temps are cold. 17F with a high and sunny day of 45F and probably wouldn't burn at all. But the day it hit 17F, it struggled to get out of the 30'sF there, and many hours were below freezing. That day in Jan 2015 had a temp anomaly on the daily mean of -23F.
Most winters there these palms do not burn, and that is from locals I talked to.
This location was on the other side of Mobile Bay and the nearest station went down to 19F, and a high temp of 38F.
I'm generally not a fan of deciduous trees, I don't hate them, but I do dislike how numerous they are, they make the landscape look dead in the winter. I love evergreens, Southern Magnolia is my favorite non-palm tree, I also like American Holly, Live Oak, Sand Laurel Oak, and various pines. But I like some deciduous trees, like Crepe Myrtles.
I'm generally not a fan of deciduous trees, I don't hate them, but I do dislike how numerous they are, they make the landscape look dead in the winter. I love evergreens, Southern Magnolia is my favorite non-palm tree, I also like American Holly, Live Oak, Sand Laurel Oak, and various pines. But I like some deciduous trees, like Crepe Myrtles.
I may be weird, but I don't mind a brown landscape or bare trees. Gives the place an interesting look and a cool and different atmosphere than summer. I like the look of bare trees on a cloudy, overcast day. I may be odd in that sense but whatever.
I guess since I like a variety of look throughout the year, palm trees aren't very interesting to me.
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