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Okay, this should be interesting. So tonight I had dinner with friends. My good friend Brian works for a pharma company and just came back from the UK. He was in England for a week at a retreat his company had at St. Albans England. He took these photos just last week. I'm sorry, but this locale just 20 miles north of London looks just as dead as MA or CT. The trees are totally leafless.
All these photos of London looking as green as here, yet only 20 miles north it looks like not a leaf on the trees? Is this just a very cold sink hole in St. Albans, or is London really a giant UHI that is way ahead of its outlying burbs? Doylestown, PA 20 miles north of Philly has more green on its trees than these photos.
Before the UK folks bash me for insinuating something, I looked at more photos on his phone that just these two. He even said the trees were way behind there. I'm simply curious why this area north of London looked so leafless in comparison to the photos of B87.
As far as I'm aware, we don't have folks on here posting photos of St. Albans. Is it the kind of trees there, or is it a cold hole outside of London?
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Now your photos beg a real question for me. Your winter is most definitely colder than here, yet your trees look either the same or ahead of ours. Our Jan, Feb, Mar, and April are far warmer than yours. What gives?
This is why I'm convinced it is the species of trees you have there vs here. If you had our trees there with that climate, no way they would be that green unless you have been way way above average in temperatures. This is just fact.
We cannot compare locations anymore and say because one area is more green than another it is because of climate. Just no way that Kharkiv, Ukraine is anywhere near as warm as here in winter or spring.
I will now take all these photos of very green trees in Spring in Eastern Europe with that in mind. Your trees are just very different and most likely far more cold tolerant than here. The record low in Kharkiv would probably kill many of our trees, which are a mix of northern and southern US native species. We have never gone anywhere near -32F, which is the record low in your location.
Okay, this should be interesting. So tonight I had dinner with friends. My good friend Brian works for a pharma company and just came back from the UK. He was in England for a week at a retreat his company had at St. Albans England. He took these photos just last week. I'm sorry, but this locale just 20 miles north of London looks just as dead as MA or CT. The trees are totally leafless.
All these photos of London looking as green as here, yet only 20 miles north it looks like not a leaf on the trees? Is this just a very cold sink hole in St. Albans, or is London really a giant UHI that is way ahead of its outlying burbs? Doylestown, PA 20 miles north of Philly has more green on its trees than these photos.
Before the UK folks bash me for insinuating something, I looked at more photos on his phone that just these two. He even said the trees were way behind there. I'm simply curious why this area north of London looked so leafless in comparison to the photos of B87.
As far as I'm aware, we don't have folks on here posting photos of St. Albans. Is it the kind of trees there, or is it a cold hole outside of London?
Maybe a different species? The trees in rural Surrey are definitely looking the same as here, so it could be a frost hollow. They could also be selectively chosen because they looked dead, or if they are ash trees, they might actually be dead. People on other forums have been talking about how dead other parts of the country look, it should be green by now.
St Albans is very close to Rickmansworth, which has some of the coldest nights in southern England.
I will be up north and then in Surrey this weekend, so I'll take a couple of pics.
I think it's mostly dependent on the species of tree. Some have totally leafed out while others are more or less bare. Things are still behind where they should be.
Same date last year:
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A nice morning, but those folks are dressed for cold.
We had a low of 0c this morning which can't be more than 1-2c off the record for the date. At the time the pic was taken it was only around 3c. It would be warmer at 8:30am on a typical January morning!
Looking at those St Albans pics again, the trees in the background as well as the tree out of shot on the left, appear to be in leaf. It must be a different species in the middle of the foreground, such as a sweet chestnut or an Ash?
Leeds looking similar to that pic I posted this morning.
Looking at those St Albans pics again, the trees in the background as well as the tree out of shot on the left, appear to be in leaf. It must be a different species in the middle of the foreground, such as a sweet chestnut or an Ash?
Leeds looking similar to that pic I posted this morning.
Frost hollow or not, there's no way it's going to be that bare in St Albans. Like you said, it's probably just a different species.
We're still well behind where we should be though.
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