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Old 09-04-2016, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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Obviously. Never mind that you will never get enough growing-degree days to grow any of those plants in Reyjkavík.
Hey at least cold hardy palms can survive there. That's what matters right?
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Old 09-04-2016, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Hey at least cold hardy palms can survive there. That's what matters right?
Again, you and Ariete are comparing a place that is subpolar with one that isn't. Of course the non subpolar one will be able to grow more stuff.

I am talking about climates that are in Koppen's C group, so both obviously have lengthy growing seasons.

Stop taking what I say out of context
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Old 09-04-2016, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Dallas is a bit warmer year round but downtown LA has warmer and more stable winters which allows them to grow more tender subtropicals but let me give you a more stark example.
Which is the warmer climate to you, Dallas, TX or Scilly Isles, UK. Scilly Isles is hardiness zone 10A vs. 8A for Dallas and Scilly Isles can grow many more species of palms and subtropicals compared to Dallas but which one to you overall is the warmer climate? I know which one I would pick for overall warmth.. and it's not located across the pond
I prefer the terms ,hotter and colder, because one place can be both, when compared to another place.

Warmth is a more subjective term and relates to general ambience over the year imo.
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Old 09-04-2016, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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To the OP, look at this map and focus on the Cfb climates. The furthest inland oceanic climate is going to be a borderline oceanic climate, so you might have to look around to find one that is far inland and also a standard oceanic climate.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...fc_Cwb_Cwc.png

The furthest inland Cfb climate looks like northern India or the Myanmar/China border, but I can't find any Cfb places.
For India: Those green spots are small, but Srinagar is a Dfa so there is some Dfb if you go up in elevation.

For china: Kunming to the east of the green is Cwa, Myitkyina to the west is Cwa, and Tengchong to the south which is in the green is probably Cwb looking at the precipitation days.


The furthest inland widespread Cfb areas are in Europe and South America.
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Old 09-05-2016, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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The lack of harsh frosts significantly impacts a climate though. If you look at the nature around Gothenburg with its frequent frosts and compare it to say... Stuttgart you'll see a massive difference. There is only a minor difference between southern Sweden's -1 climates (upwards from Scania) and central Sweden's -4 climates when looking at the forests.
yeah but then in that example the climate with the lower annual range is qualified as continental while an oceanic climate with a january average just above 0c (which still gets frosts most winter) and warm summers, so with a greater annual range, would be the oceanic one, which is pretty paradoxical when you think about it.
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Old 09-05-2016, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Obviously "oceanic" is not really related to "ocean." The Gulf of Mexico dominates the entire climate of central North America.
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Old 09-05-2016, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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To the OP, look at this map and focus on the Cfb climates. The furthest inland oceanic climate is going to be a borderline oceanic climate, so you might have to look around to find one that is far inland and also a standard oceanic climate.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...fc_Cwb_Cwc.png

The furthest inland Cfb climate looks like northern India or the Myanmar/China border, but I can't find any Cfb places.
For India: Those green spots are small, but Srinagar is a Dfa so there is some Dfb if you go up in elevation.

For china: Kunming to the east of the green is Cwa, Myitkyina to the west is Cwa, and Tengchong to the south which is in the green is probably Cwb looking at the precipitation days.


The furthest inland widespread Cfb areas are in Europe and South America.
The problem with those Central Asian climates is that they are highland cooled down climates and their temperature ranges are not related to the ocean in any shape of form. It's just that they're southerly enough not to be continental.
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Old 09-05-2016, 05:40 PM
 
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anything along the Caspian Sea have a oceanic climate?
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Old 09-05-2016, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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anything along the Caspian Sea have a oceanic climate?
No, it's far to arid around it and also a typical east coast crossover between continental and subtropical under Köppen.
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Old 09-05-2016, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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Obviously "oceanic" is not really related to "ocean." The Gulf of Mexico dominates the entire climate of central North America.
The GOMEX is hardly an "ocean" also. The Central US being positioned north of the Gulf instead of south or east of it is a big reason there isn't much "oceanic" influence as well.
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