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Old 12-20-2016, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Which is more likely to grow palm trees, Macquarie Islands or Toronto?
Toronto.

Neither could grow a palm for 12 months, but a palm could grow for a few months in Toronto's warmer half of the year, while Macquarie Island wouldn't see any growth.

Where is a better climate for citrus -Vigo or Motueka?
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Old 12-21-2016, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Toronto.

Neither could grow a palm for 12 months, but a palm could grow for a few months in Toronto's warmer half of the year, while Macquarie Island wouldn't see any growth.

Where is a better climate for citrus -Vigo or Motueka?
Tough one.

Vigo is a degree warmer and wetter, and Motueka is more sunnier and drier. Which is more important for citruses, sunshine or warmer temps?
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Old 12-22-2016, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Tough one.

Vigo is a degree warmer and wetter, and Motueka is more sunnier and drier. Which is more important for citruses, sunshine or warmer temps?
Vigo is 1.4C warmer over the year, although minimums are 3.1C warmer, and maximums 0.4C colder.

I'm thinking more sunshine and less rain during winter would give an advantage over warmer temps and more rain, as the latter would likely cause more blossom damage.

I don't really know though -can't find much online about citrus in Vigo or here.
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Old 12-22-2016, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Vigo is 1.4C warmer over the year, although minimums are 3.1C warmer, and maximums 0.4C colder.

I'm thinking more sunshine and less rain during winter would give an advantage over warmer temps and more rain, as the latter would likely cause more blossom damage.

I don't really know though -can't find much online about citrus in Vigo or here.
Yes. I agree with that.
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Old 12-22-2016, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Melbourne City is still stuck at 21C, but my suburb is at 30C!

Suck it
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Old 12-22-2016, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Melbourne City is still stuck at 21C, but my suburb is at 30C!

Suck it
Even Melbourne has such tremendous microclimates? I didn't know that.

I mean, I thought the difference between the CBD and inland temps would be something like 3-4C. Hm....
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Even Melbourne has such tremendous microclimates? I didn't know that.

I mean, I thought the difference between the CBD and inland temps would be something like 3-4C. Hm....
Seabreezes can be pretty powerful down here sometimes, when they're in full force 10C differences aren't uncommon...

Right now:

Melbourne (Olympic Park): 22.6°C
Viewbank (25km NE): 32.5°C

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/observations/melbourne.shtml
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Old 12-22-2016, 09:14 PM
 
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Melbourne City is still stuck at 21C, but my suburb is at 30C!

Suck it
The BOM's new polar troll station at work! First place to get seabreezes without fail and often is not representative of the majority of the inner urban area on days with seabreezes. I think they went out of their way to find the coldest possible location for the new official city station, despite their global warming agenda. A better location would've been Carlton Gardens or some other open park somewhere within a couple km NW/NE of the old station.


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Even Melbourne has such tremendous microclimates? I didn't know that.

I mean, I thought the difference between the CBD and inland temps would be something like 3-4C. Hm....
it does on certain days. Hell there are microclimates between the town here and the airport station 10km away. The airport station is in a flat prairie with nothing anywhere whereas here there is the river, wetlands, floodplains, vegetation and built up area and the result is higher overnight lows and my dewpoints can be several degrees higher than the airport as the wetlands/river warm up. Some summer evenings out here feel like Abu Dhabi almost while the airport has dewpoints in the low single figures.
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Old 12-22-2016, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Sydney
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The BOM's new polar troll station at work! First place to get seabreezes without fail and often is not representative of the majority of the inner urban area on days with seabreezes. I think they went out of their way to find the coldest possible location for the new official city station, despite their global warming agenda. A better location would've been Carlton Gardens or some other open park somewhere within a couple km NW/NE of the old station.
I suspect they went with somewhere that was least subject to any sort of UHI effect. The new site is almost completely surrounded by parkland on all sides.

I just hope they don't get rid of Observatory Hill, although I'm not sure why they would, it's been surrounded by roads and development for decades at least and probably for its entire history.
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Old 12-22-2016, 11:45 PM
 
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Haha am reading up on the South Pole's sun angles. It's amazing how it can be:

* Midnight sun on Mar 22 in spite of a 0.4 degree solar noon angle.
* Polar night on Mar 23 in spite of civil twilight until Apr 4 when the solar noon angle is -5.6 degrees (!)
* Midnight sun again on Sep 22 in spite of a 0.1 degree solar noon angle
* Now approaching the summer solstice it'll peak at 23.5 degrees sun angle, something 58N does something akin to 13 Oct!
* Rome and Chicago at 41 N have higher sun angles at winter solstice than the South Pole has at summer solstice!

Stunning planet this.
No exact daily "solar noon" in the poles. The actual "solar noon" is at summer solstice.
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