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Old 06-02-2017, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Göle, Turkey
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I only used that website for Dew Point and Humidity levels.

They claim



I went to Wiki, and see that Izmit from May to September have very similar temps as to here.
Ağrı's average low in January is 4*C ( Celsius) warmer in your website. It is a f****** huge difference. I am sorry.
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Old 06-02-2017, 01:23 PM
 
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Ağrı's average low in January is 5*C ( Celsius) warmer in your website. It is a f****** huge difference. I am sorry.
Lol. That's not my website. Like I said, I only used it for dew points readings since it's difficult for me to find such data for locations outside the US. I know that for some locations they have limited number of years of data that they use (like 1998-2012 for example)...
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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why all the anti London threads ? i don't get it . Is it a disliked city i wonder ? it's not the prettiest of places granted.

London has a gloomy winter climate but there are 100s of places with a worst winter .

London is pretty dry and mild . It's one of northern Europes best winter climates imo (if you like mild and dry ) - South coast English locations beat it though

Places like Vancouver ,Bergen,Glasgow,Dublin with near constant rain /drizzle i'd class as pretty bad - but even they don't come anywhere in the top 50 baddies .

Places with -20 and 10 foot of snow must be the worst by some distance surely ?
You're right that London is not that bad. It just stands out because it's a famous city I guess. So it is rather ostensible. If it were a small city in the UK people wouldn't even bring it up in the threads.

As I said in other threads, Vancouver at least has really sunny summers, which compensate their gloomy drizzly winters. You're right that Dublin and especially Glasgow are really terrible.

P.S. So you're from England? I didn't know that, thanks to your username. What is its meaning anyway (TorshavnSunHolidays)? Is it satirical or part of the local subculture in Torshavn? It really puzzled me. Lol

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Why pick Moscow? Moscow is not that cold.
1. Moscow is a large city. And this thread was about cities, not small towns.
2. Moscow is not subarctic. This thread was about temperate or non-subarctic cities with the worst winter ever.
3. Moscow is still really cold in winter for a large city and non-subarctic place. Constant average highs below zero are COLD.
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Old 06-03-2017, 04:26 AM
 
Location: Göle, Turkey
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You're right that London is not that bad. It just stands out because it's a famous city I guess. So it is rather ostensible. If it were a small city in the UK people wouldn't even bring it up in the threads.

As I said in other threads, Vancouver at least has really sunny summers, which compensate their gloomy drizzly winters. You're right that Dublin and especially Glasgow are really terrible.

P.S. So you're from England? I didn't know that, thanks to your username. What is its meaning anyway (TorshavnSunHolidays)? Is it satirical or part of the local subculture in Torshavn? It really puzzled me. Lol


1. Moscow is a large city. And this thread was about cities, not small towns.
2. Moscow is not subarctic. This thread was about temperate or non-subarctic cities with the worst winter ever.
3. Moscow is still really cold in winter for a large city and non-subarctic place. Constant average highs below zero are COLD.
So, average highs below 0*C in winter are the worst winters?

Is Ulaanbaatar a small town to you? It is a capital city of a country but I suppose it is a small town to you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulaanbaatar
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Old 06-03-2017, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Ipswich,England
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You're right that London is not that bad. It just stands out because it's a famous city I guess. So it is rather ostensible. If it were a small city in the UK people wouldn't even bring it up in the threads.

As I said in other threads, Vancouver at least has really sunny summers, which compensate their gloomy drizzly winters. You're right that Dublin and especially Glasgow are really terrible.

P.S. So you're from England? I didn't know that, thanks to your username. What is its meaning anyway (TorshavnSunHolidays)? Is it satirical or part of the local subculture in Torshavn? It really puzzled me. Lol


1. Moscow is a large city. And this thread was about cities, not small towns.
2. Moscow is not subarctic. This thread was about temperate or non-subarctic cities with the worst winter ever.
3. Moscow is still really cold in winter for a large city and non-subarctic place. Constant average highs below zero are COLD.
It was a jokey spur of the moment name i used when i registered - i would now change it to something else

Btw , Vancouver is very good in the summer months - it's just the winter months for tha city i'd imagine would be pretty horrible (same for Seattle and a number of locations in Europe ) Rain is great in summer but not so great when you have tempratures between 0- 10c in winter where there is little sun and and short days . At that time, dryness is crucial .
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Old 06-03-2017, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Göle, Turkey
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Lol. That's not my website. Like I said, I only used it for dew points readings since it's difficult for me to find such data for locations outside the US. I know that for some locations they have limited number of years of data that they use (like 1998-2012 for example)...
So you are saying Chicago has a high humid in Summer even if it is a continental climate? Is it because of the lake?

In Turkey, cities like Batman, Diyarbakır, Şanlıurfa have very high temperatures in Summer but humid is low because they are far from sea ( Continental Climates)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman,_Turkey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyarbakır
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Şanlıurfa

Cities like Adana and Antalya have humid hot in summer. These cities are near Sea ( Oceanic Climates)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antalya

To me, even İzmit's summer feel pretty damn hot but to a person who lives in Adana, İzmit's summers won't feel so hot probably.

Since Chicago has a continental climate, I had thought of it as a less humid climate. İzmit is near Sea.

To me, İzmit's summers feel pretty damn hot but winters are too warm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/İzmit

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Old 06-03-2017, 07:26 AM
 
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So Chicago has high humid in Summer even if it has a continental climate? Is it because of the lake?
No, in fact the suburbs away from the lake typically see higher humidity/dew points than the city itself. Maybe right on the lake the dew points can be higher than say the city airports 20km away, but the suburbs are usually higher than the city airports. It has to do with vegetation I think...


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In Turkey, cities like Batman, Diyarbakır, Şanlıurfa have very high temperatures in Summer but humid is low because they are far from sea ( Continental Climates)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman,_Turkey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyarbakır
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Şanlıurfa

Cities like Adana and Antalya have humid hot in summer. These cities are near Sea ( Oceanic Climates)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antalya

To me, even İzmit's summer feel pretty damn hot but to a person who lives in Adana, İzmit's summers won't feel so hot probably. I sweat like crazy when it is 30*C in İzmit.

Since Chicago has a continental climate, I had thought of it as a less humid climate.
Most of the Eastern US is humid in the summer. From my research, the Eastern US is as humid or more so than the coastal Mediterranean. I was born in Greece and have family there. I know that the sea can increase dew points dramatically in coastal areas. However they drop fast just a few km inland. In the US, geography and vegetation keep dew points elevated many hundreds of miles away from any large body of water. Of course the Southern US is much more humid being near the Gulf.


When the temperature is above 27C/80F and the dew point is above 70F/21C then it feels pretty humid. At times our dew point have reached 80F/27C which is oppressive


This is a very typical setup dew point set up in July




This was last July. Not temperatures but dew points. Notice that the farther away from Lake Michigan the higher the dew points were. A 28C/82F dew point is very oppressive. Some scientists say it's the agriculture that is creating these insanely high dew points in the Midwest. They are calling it "Corn Sweat".



And this was the corresponding heat index value (air temp + dew point) on that particular day. Reaching 46C/114F in spots.




Close up of Chicagoland on that day. The heat index reached 117F/47C at the Chicago/Gary airport

https://twitter.com/NWSChicago/statu...60562061889540


And some extreme days, 27C+ dew points may reach many hundreds of miles away from any large body of water all the way to the Canadian border.

https://twitter.com/afreedma/status/755863363515654144
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Göle, Turkey
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No, in fact the suburbs away from the lake typically see higher humidity/dew points than the city itself. Maybe right on the lake the dew points can be higher than say the city airports 20km away, but the suburbs are usually higher than the city airports. It has to do with vegetation I think...




Most of the Eastern US is humid in the summer. From my research, the Eastern US is as humid or more so than the coastal Mediterranean. I was born in Greece and have family there. I know that the sea can increase dew points dramatically in coastal areas. However they drop fast just a few km inland. In the US, geography and vegetation keep dew points elevated many hundreds of miles away from any large body of water. Of course the Southern US is much more humid being near the Gulf.


When the temperature is above 27C/80F and the dew point is above 70F/21C then it feels pretty humid. At times our dew point have reached 80F/27C which is oppressive


This is a very typical setup dew point set up in July




This was last July. Not temperatures but dew points. Notice that the farther away from Lake Michigan the higher the dew points were. A 28C/82F dew point is very oppressive. Some scientists say it's the agriculture that is creating these insanely high dew points in the Midwest. They are calling it "Corn Sweat".



And this was the corresponding heat index value (air temp + dew point) on that particular day. Reaching 46C/114F in spots.




Close up of Chicagoland on that day. The heat index reached 117F/47C at the Chicago/Gary airport

https://twitter.com/NWSChicago/statu...60562061889540


And some extreme days, 27C+ dew points may reach many hundreds of miles away from any large body of water all the way to the Canadian border.

https://twitter.com/afreedma/status/755863363515654144
Right now, the temperature is 30.4℃ and humidity is 48% in İzmit. What do you think?

I don't know what dewpoint is. We don't use dewpoint in Turkey.

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Old 06-03-2017, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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So, average highs below 0*C in winter are the worst winters?

Is Ulaanbaatar a small town to you? It is a capital city of a country but I suppose it is a small town to you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulaanbaatar
Whether it's a city or not, Ulaanbaatar is borderline subarctic. It barely applies to this thread. Read the opening post of this thread again before you make silly assumptions.
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Göle, Turkey
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Ulaanbaatar is a borderline subarctic city. It barely applies to this thread. Read the opening post of this thread again before you make silly assumptions.
Ulaanbaatar has a continental climate. How is a subarctic city? You call cities which have colder winters than Moscow as subartic city. Ulaanbaatar doesn't have as warm winters as Moscow. For that reason, it is subartic. Winnipeg is subartic too? because it has much colder winters than Moscow has. But Winnipeg is a small town. I forgot that

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