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View Poll Results: Which has the best climate?
Spain 67 55.37%
California 54 44.63%
Voters: 121. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-26-2017, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Syrmia, Northern Serbia, near 45 N
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Completely true! It has also some extreme dry and hot climates like those ones from the Death Valley. More than 46.9ºC/116.5F every day? Who would like that.

No place in Cali has Cfa, Cfb, Dfa or Dfb climates (Oceanic, Humid Subtropical and types of humid continental climates).

I don't know why some people say that they are pretty similar and variated if Cali hasn't got a single humid climate, although in the north some places are very humid with Csb climates and pretty green, but still with a defined dry season in the summer. No oceanic for example, which is probably the climate with the greenest landscapes. Spain has also a few zones with humid subtropical climates.

13 Köppen climates in Spain vs 10 in California. But California has a Csc climate which is very similar to a Dsb one, no humid continental/subtropical instead.
The distance between Los Angeles and San Francisco is similar as the distance between Seville and Burgos.

Average temperature in Seville in January is 11c, in Burgos is 3,1c - difference 7,9c.
Average temperature in Seville in July is 28,2c , in Burgos is 19,5c - difference 8,7c
Average annual temperature in Seville is 19,2c , in Burgos is 10,7c - difference 8,5c.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgos...hy_and_climate , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seville#Climate

Average temperature in Los Angeles in January is 15,1c , in San Francisco is 10,7c - difference 4,4c
Average temperature in Los Angeles in July is 23,6c , in San Francisco is 15,7c - difference 7.9c
Average annual temperature in Los Angeles is 19,2c , in San Francisco is 14,1c - difference 5,1c
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles#Climat, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco#Climate
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Old 04-26-2017, 10:28 PM
 
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This is why many people chooses California instead of Spain. Spain has things known by a very few outside Spain. Not a problem, I can show them gladly =)

No man, you don't know them, that doesn't mean that "nothing can match it". Be calm, at the end of this post I will show you things that California really can't match in any way, while Spain can match (and overcome many of those ones from above)


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CA wins it by far.

Nothing in Spain can match the redwoods:
coast (redwood forest):
http://www.travelvivi.com/wp-content...tate-Parks.jpg
By far? Let me laugh please... Let's see. So you say that Spain hasn't got a related forest to the Redwoods, ok:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hTZRPY4X_M...0/DSC_0380.JPG

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GXHeLSjium...00/Sauceda.jpg

https://i1.wp.com/alcazarvegetal.fil...290&crop&ssl=1

http://www.ubriqueturismo.es/wp-cont...cornocales.jpg

http://saltaconmigo.com/blog/wp-cont...urisilva-5.jpg

Redwoods are on a single place. I shown you a forest of the north of Spain (Cantabria) and the south (Cádiz) on those pics.

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mountains (sequoia forest):
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EecX12EQ8-...California.JPG
Sequoias, yes, you're right, the Californian sequoias are unique in the world. But there are forests with huuuge trees:

http://www.viajeseppur.es/wp-content...7/IMG_0055.jpg


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Nor can anything in Spain match the coastal scenes in California:
coast (beaches)
https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/ima...lideshow_l.jpg
https://multimedia.getresponse.com/2...os/7648202.jpg
whaaa? are you serious? and those are the best Californian beaches? don't even mentioning that in most of Cali the water is very cold even in summer...



source: https://www.escapadarural.com/blog/p...e-de-asturias/

http://crucerosriasbaixas.com/fotos/...es/1/cies1.jpg

http://cuponisimo.farodevigo.es/uplo...-bahia-sub.jpg

http://www.anayatouring.com/wp-conte...n-Asturias.jpg

http://www.quevisitarenasturias.es/s...la-ballota.jpg

http://www.campingislascies.com/img/slider04.jpg

http://www.ewallpapers.eu/sites/defa...24-9939043.jpg

Spain smashes without any kind of piety the beaches of California. Those are Atlantic/Oceanic beaches, are similar in temperature as the ones of Cali. Wanna see the warmer Mediterranean ones?

http://www.inmojmartinez.es/media/im...nnro01cl3k.jpg

https://www.escapadarural.com/blog/w...acarelleta.jpg

Where can you find something like this in Cali? Is even cruel to compare them!!

https://www.descobreixmenorca.com/wp...acio_desti.jpg

https://www.abc-mallorca.es/wp-conte...rca-img004.jpg

https://zone1-ibizaspotlightsl.netdn...77859067_0.jpg

Texas can have better beaches, Florida of course has and wins Spain by far. But California? lol, the only part of which wins the beaches of Spain is in Mexico, not in the US =)))

how sure are you about that?



source: http://www.weekendesk.es/oferta-hote...Cataluna-Espot

lol those kind of forests can be found in lots of places of the Pyrenees, Picos de Europa, Sierra Nevada, Iberian Mountains, Central Mountains...

http://www.pirineo.com/sites/default...ta_montana.jpg

But Cali has something like this?

http://www.lne.es/elementosWeb/gesti...-Muniellos.jpg

Those palm trees are not native of there. That is a palm tree farm... Spain also has even bigger concentrations of palms... The 3rd in the world, to be more exact. (the first 2 ones are in Africa)

http://n7.alamy.com/zooms/e4bca56be0...tal-gndah9.jpg

Here you go, a palm tree forest in a arid entourage...

http://www.abc.es/Media/201412/11/palmeral--644x362.JPG

Spain has got deserts too... and with thousands of times more liveable climates.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2m19GJXUAAl1er.jpg

What about those Arizona looking landscapes in Spain?

https://www.escapadarural.com/blog/w...rdena-real.jpg

http://www.entornodepaz.org/index.ph...mid=55&lang=en

It's funny that Almería was used to record many western films, even Clint Eastwood participated in a few



source: https://www.cabogataalmeria.com/Cabo...-poblados.html

Quote:
How is this even a contest?
Right?


What about decidious forests in California? 404 error not found...



source: http://www.otsagabia.net/irati-bosque-de-bosques/

http://www.turismo.navarra.com/wp-co...a-1024x575.jpg

http://www.granadanatural.com/imagen...camarate-1.jpg

http://www.masssque.com/img/cual-es-...de-espana2.jpg

http://tengerenge.com/wp-content/upl...2-1024x768.jpg

Where can you find a single place in Cali with a landscape like this one? For God's sake, resembles south China or Taiwan !!!

20c32caa.jpg Photo by naturmendi | Photobucket



source: http://www.naturaspain.com/los-mejor...autonomas.html

Can you find some landscapes resembling the Alps in Cali? Let me guess...

http://blogs.lanacion.com.ar/mundo-g...ano_Suarez.jpg

http://www.casonasasturianas.com/wp-...l-asturias.jpg

http://www.casonasasturianas.com/wp-...e-asturias.jpg

http://www.casonasasturianas.com/wp-...-primavera.jpg

or a town like this?

http://www.campingsdeasturias.es/int...sturias-15.jpg


Verdict: Comparing Spain to California is pretty cruel. I'm sorry, but your post was with enormous superiority complex... I don't know why, if it's clear that Cali hasn't got Oceanic, Humid Subtropical or Humid Continental climates. Spain has. And Spain has anything you can find in California. Better beaches, better landscapes... Maybe Cali has better deserts, but because Cali has 1000 times more desert.

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Old 04-26-2017, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I own an apartment in Marbella, Spain and that is a magnificent climate but not as good as what you get 10 miles inland in SoCal. I voted California.
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Old 04-26-2017, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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Spain for a less mediterranean precipitation pattern (funny because Spain is actually on the Mediterranean and California isn't but anyway...)
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Old 04-26-2017, 11:12 PM
 
Location: C: Home R: Monroe CT, Climate:Dfa
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California because it has more heat potential than Spain and it's more interesting.
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Old 04-26-2017, 11:28 PM
 
Location: 64'N Umeå, Sweden - The least bad Dfc
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I think the two have similar climatic variety. However, California has this variety a lot closer together with far more micro climates. There are much more mountains, and so it's very easy to just go like 50km from anywhere (except if you're in the middle of the Sacramento valley) and experience a very different climate. Also, there are so many more A climates in California, whereas I don't even know if Spain has a single one. California is more moderated and has the possibility for warmer winters (that's if we're talking about Iberian Spain, I mean, discussing Denmark's climate you wouldn't really bring in Greenland into the discussion would you?). California also have a lot of climates with moderate rainfall that also have nice sunshine, and very few rain days. Inland Cali is also very comparable, if not better than inland Spain as well. There's really no area Spain excels in for me, except perhaps warmer ocean water.
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Old 04-26-2017, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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I think Junter has written about a Bible's worth of posts coming into the defense of Spain. Chill out dude, not everything is an attack on Spain, for ****s sake.



And tbh, I think some people are voting against Spain just to **** you off.
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Old 04-27-2017, 12:16 AM
 
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I think the two have similar climatic variety. However, California has this variety a lot closer together with far more micro climates. There are much more mountains, and so it's very easy to just go like 50km from anywhere (except if you're in the middle of the Sacramento valley) and experience a very different climate. Also, there are so many more A climates in California, whereas I don't even know if Spain has a single one. California is more moderated and has the possibility for warmer winters (that's if we're talking about Iberian Spain, I mean, discussing Denmark's climate you wouldn't really bring in Greenland into the discussion would you?). California also have a lot of climates with moderate rainfall that also have nice sunshine, and very few rain days. Inland Cali is also very comparable, if not better than inland Spain as well. There's really no area Spain excels in for me, except perhaps warmer ocean water.
Spain has lots of mountains too!



About the variation in a small area... in less than 50km from me I have 4 different Köppen climates and 5-6 different landscapes, including a very high mountain with decidious trees.

Cali has more extreme and instable weather, one day can be cool and 2 days later can be hot. In California, droughts are quite more frequent, and earthquakes a lot more.

Well, Almería, Cádiz, Málaga, Alicante and Tarifa have some pretty warm winters too, Almería is very similar to San Diego and those parts of Spain have less possibilty of extreme cold than southern Cali.

Almería is the only place in mainland Europe which never recorded a temperature of 0°C or less. Has Cali a place which never recorded temps uf 0°C or less? Without counting the small islets of Cali, in mainland I say.

Although the US California goes down to 32°N and Spain barely lower than 37°N so it's also a difference for that. Slightly inland Southern California has warmer high temps during the winter than any European place of course, some places have avg highs in their coldest month above 20°C, that's more than anywhere else in Spain or Europe.

Baba, which would be a perfect climate for you? I'm interested.

If you tell me a couple of examples of A climates to you it would be great!

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I think Junter has written about a Bible's worth of posts coming into the defense of Spain. Chill out dude, not everything is an attack on Spain, for ****s sake.



And tbh, I think some people are voting against Spain just to **** you off.
Bro, I know, to the only one i replied kinda pi**ed and a long reply was to the guy with the superiority complex.

I shown him that Spain has all that of those landscapes he claims that Cali has and more things...

The other replies I made were to show examples. I'm sure that a few people would think that Spain had Decidious forests or very wet climates.
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Old 04-27-2017, 12:38 AM
 
Location: 64'N Umeå, Sweden - The least bad Dfc
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Spain has lots of mountains too!



About the variation in a small area... in less than 50km from me I have 4 different Köppen climates and 5-6 different landscapes, including a very high mountain with decidious trees.

Cali has more extreme and instable weather, one day can be cool and 2 days later can be hot. In California, droughts are quite more frequent, and earthquakes a lot more.

Well, Almería, Cádiz, Málaga, Alicante and Tarifa have some pretty warm winters too, Almería is very similar to San Diego and those parts of Spain have less possibilty of extreme cold than southern Cali.

Almería is the only place in mainland Europe which never recorded a temperature of 0°C or less. Has Cali a place which never recorded temps uf 0°C or less? Without counting the small islets of Cali, in mainland I say.

Although the US California goes down to 32°N and Spain barely lower than 37°N so it's also a difference for that. Slightly inland Southern California has warmer high temps during the winter than any European place of course, some places have avg highs in their coldest month above 20°C, that's more than anywhere else in Spain or Europe.

Baba, which would be a perfect climate for you? I'm interested.

If you tell me a couple of examples of A climates to you it would be great!



Bro, I know, to the only one i replied kinda pi**ed and a long reply was to the guy with the superiority complex.

I shown him that Spain has all that of those landscapes he claims that Cali has and more things...

The other replies I made were to show examples. I'm sure that a few people would think that Spain had Decidious forests or very wet climates.
I want all months to be as close to 22-25'C as possible. I'm fine with 26'C and 27'C as long as it's dry warmth.
Then I want maximum sunshine, minimum humidity, and minimum rain days but enough precipitation to keep environments lush. Coastal-ish SoCal is all A. The Bay area is also A, as I'm fine with sacrificing winter warmth for lushness as long as there's a quick warmup, and the temps are still warm enough to only have to wear perhaps a thin jacket.

Coastal parts of Spain are kinda humid in summer, hot in summer, and arid, and still don't have as warm winters as I'd want. Inland Spain isn't humid, but still arid, really hot in summer, and even colder in winter. North-western Spain has perhaos a couple of A-climates, but only barely. Sunshine is low and there are a lot of rainy days.
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Old 04-27-2017, 12:41 AM
 
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Junter chill out..

And I vote Spain, much warmer SSTs, more humidity
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