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Old 10-28-2008, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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...and spending is out of control under Bush. Future liabilities aren't accounted for... So hip-hip-hooraay. What a fine mess Ollie.

What's worse? A tax and spend Democrat Party or a no tax and spend, spend, spend Republican Party?

Point is the tax plan that has been presented by the 'Obama' side is being unfairly portrayed as some radical scheme to redistribute wealth, which by and large is complete 'BUNK' yet folks are lapping up the tag line in lock step with their 'message'.

Regardless of political affiliation I do try to measure things myself, not by what they tell me to believe.
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:01 AM
 
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When i say fair tax i mean a consumption/sales tax.
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:56 AM
 
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I was poor several times in my life...I found that if I wanted some wealth and a higher degree of prosperity, I had to build that road myself...

With age and experience came an awareness of opportunity...what is sad and so un-American is the visciousness of much of our society today...

They seem to be on a Prison mentality curve...taking from someone...why?...
It's about work and sweat...It's always been about hard work and sweat...nothing else....look at the Mexicans as examples...
The reason they do not fall for the hype is one single thing...religious morality...

It is difficult to be criminal and moral at the same time...show me how stealing from others is moral...

I'll answer that one: When laws deem it so...

Look at Ceasar Chazez...when he stole the oil companies property from Shell and Texaco...now his counrty is in shambles..and the good people of New England need his heating oil...they said those oil companies got what they deserved...
Hope they have a lot of wood in the city and national parks...as that is the solution in Russian cites when fuel does not exist...cut the nearest tree...we will see it here..
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:19 AM
 
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And who's buying what in our country these days? Chriminey jeeper days, the government is already buying into banks and investment firms, McCain is talking about buying individual mortgages...

Uh... the GOP calling someone else 'Socialist' or 'Marxist'? Pot meet kettle anyone? This is NOT the brand of conservatism I signed up for.

The sad irony is that a lot, and I mean A LOT of my republican friends seem to be placated with this because it's NOT a Democratic plan, but when you talk about Pelosi and CO.- Boy they're foaming at the mouth screaming the bloody Liberals are gonna take everything from me and give it to someone else! Uh… What? Aren't we already nationalizing institutions and proposing one of the BIGGEST welfare bailouts by buying mortgages? ‘Friends’- that is the BIGGEST example of unearned welfare I have ever seen in my life.
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:43 AM
 
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The large tax increases came in the past after the country ran up huge bills for WWI, The Great Depression, WWII and Europe Reconstruction, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War. In some cases, deferring tax increases couldn't be helped because those crises threatened the domestic economy. There's no real excuse for it in the case of Vietnam and Iraq.
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:39 PM
 
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Problem is we now rely on deficit spending and some future collection to pay for it.

War on credit. Heh. Would MasterCard call this 'priceless'?
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:59 PM
 
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threerun we can do what the thai do-- have extra children and sell less favored ones into human trafficking. Maybe that's the plan they haven't announced? Jerry springer rejects and Bush at the head of the line is all I ask.
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