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Old 07-17-2020, 09:59 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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The City of Asheville has issues with wasteful spending. Reparations add to wasteful spending. Members of Asheville City Council can pay reparations using their own money, not the City of Asheville.
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Old 07-17-2020, 10:16 PM
 
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The City of Asheville has issues with wasteful spending. Reparations add to wasteful spending. Members of Asheville City Council can pay reparations using their own money, not the City of Asheville.

So then you can vote your Asheville City Council representative out at the next election.
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Old 07-17-2020, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Avery Ranch, Austin, TX
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So then you can vote your Asheville City Council representative out at the next election.
Can't vote them OUT....have to vote someone IN.
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Old 07-18-2020, 07:08 AM
 
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I voted for Barack Obama as president, my liberal white guilt is taken care of.
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Old 07-18-2020, 08:18 AM
 
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The "reparations" would be going to people who were never slaves and paid by with taxes from people who were never slave-owners.

This makes no sense at all.

And to those who think it makes a difference that it's "community investment" and not cash payments to people...it doesn't change a thing. City budgets are finite, allocating funds for one thing deprives them from being used on other things, maybe even a "white" neighborhood in need of investment.
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Old 07-18-2020, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Gods country
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My descendants arrived here in the 1910s and 20s
Slavery was abolished in 1855, 155 years ago.
I’m not paying for something through my tax dollars that I had no hand in.
Every nationality that arrived here suffered some for of prejudice. What about paying them reparations. When does it stop.
We already pay out moneys for low income housing and food stamps. This should be temporary until people can get themselves through school and find work. It hasn’t gone in that direction. We have a permanent class of people on the dole.
These projects breed crime and affect all of society negatively.
So no, I’m not for reparations.
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Old 07-18-2020, 10:56 AM
 
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Do you mean this photo from early 20th century Belgium?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ir...aves-us-photo/

Thanks for that poppy....interesting when someone posts something without a link for us to check.
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Old 07-18-2020, 10:57 AM
 
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The City of Asheville has issues with wasteful spending. Reparations add to wasteful spending. Members of Asheville City Council can pay reparations using their own money, not the City of Asheville.

You don't live in Asheville.
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Old 07-18-2020, 11:01 AM
 
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I voted for Barack Obama as president, my liberal white guilt is taken care of.

Everything I've seen of your posts don't indicate "liberal" at all.



White, yes.


Guilt? Let it go...it can stymie action.


Lastly, pulling a lever or checking a box doesn't begin to cover it.
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Old 07-18-2020, 11:01 AM
 
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I didn't see anything concrete in there...primarily a few platitudes. Certainly nothing like "reparations."

Ashville is a city of less than 100,000. That's a third the size of Plano, TX, and it's nowhere near as wealthy as Plano. How much "investing" are they going to do in their black community?

Personally, I don't think reparations of any kind are feasible in America anymore primarily because it would be an impracticable task to determine exactly who should get them. Beyond the issue of identification--say if there were a solution to that problem-- if there were to be reparations, they should be for the effects of Jim Crow, not slavery.

If it hadn't been for Jim Crow laws, the effects of slavery would have been overcome within a generation. We still have people living today (me, for instance) who were directly affected by Jim Crow laws. It would be in keeping with precedents to make reparations to only to individuals who were directly effected by government policies.

Nor do I think any such reparations for the effects of Jim Crow on the direct survivors of that era should be made in cash payments. About the best form of theoretical reparations I've heard suggested is the establishment of a trust fund that would provide interest-free loans for continued education and business expansion.
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