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View Poll Results: should there be a minimum tip level mandated by law.
Yes, if a tip is given it should be at least 15% by law. 5 6.85%
Yes, but 15% is too high 1 1.37%
Yes, but 15% is too low 1 1.37%
No, the percentage should strictly be decided by the tipper 66 90.41%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-10-2013, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Long Neck,De
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I'd add a guess that getting jobs at the higher-end restaurants where good tips are common and great tips are possible with better service are also harder to get.
or they are in very seasonal resorts.
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Old 12-10-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Santa FE NM
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A better question is why? What's wrong with a 10% tip instead of a 0% tip?

I'm not a tipped employee, but I'd rather just get rid of tips. Increase the cost of food by 15% or whatever.
I agree with NJBest. Get rid of tips entirely and pay the employees a decent living wage to start with.

Tipping seems to be a uniquely American thing. Waiters in Europe are paid a decent wage. Many/most of them work for the same employer for all of their careers. As such, they don't expect a tip. Some of them even get a bit miffed if you over-tip them. Rounding up your payment to the next highest Euro (etc.) is more than sufficient. This is also generally true of cabbies.
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Old 12-10-2013, 03:14 PM
 
Location: SC
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This question came up on another forum, so I post a poll to try to gain insight. If you are a tipped worker, would you favor legislation to establish a minimum tip level of, say, 15 percent? Would it help or hurt you? The tip could always be zero, but no one would be allowed to cheap out with 10%, or even 14%. Tip 14% and the customer could expect a knock on the door from a pair of guys in suits from the wage and hour division.

What do you think? Would this boost the fortunes of hardworking servers, bartenders, taxi drivers, etc?
Here's an idea: How about requiring the employers to pay at least minimum wage so I, as the customer, am not forced to supplement their wages...
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Old 12-10-2013, 09:29 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Here's an idea: How about requiring the employers to pay at least minimum wage so I, as the customer, am not forced to supplement their wages...
You are going to supplement it one way or another. Either through tipping or increased menu prices. Now I do agree that I rather do it though increased menu prices and leave tipping for exceptional service.
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Old 12-10-2013, 09:45 PM
 
Location: SC
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You are going to supplement it one way or another. Either through tipping or increased menu prices. Now I do agree that I rather do it though increased menu prices and leave tipping for exceptional service.
A restaurant deciding to raise its prices is not and should not be illegal; it's their prerogative. Paying below minimum wage should be illegal. Expected/required tipping from the customer in order to make up for the sleight is simply adding insult to injury.
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Corona the I.E.
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I was looking at moving companies reviews and this lady said she tipped her movers? She wasn't even totally satisfied? Tipping postman thread on this forum? Don't think so.

I tip 15% if ok, if it's bad service, rude 5-10% and super service gets 25%.

And those asking to get rid of tips and just increase bill, be careful for what you ask for. They have that in Europe and the service isn't as good because their is no motivation to work harder.
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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I agree with NJBest. Get rid of tips entirely and pay the employees a decent living wage to start with.

Tipping seems to be a uniquely American thing. Waiters in Europe are paid a decent wage. Many/most of them work for the same employer for all of their careers. As such, they don't expect a tip. Some of them even get a bit miffed if you over-tip them. Rounding up your payment to the next highest Euro (etc.) is more than sufficient. This is also generally true of cabbies.
Not exactly true.

In France, they always include a 15% service charge. Tipping is then optional. If the service was merely okay, you don't tip anything. If it was good, tip 5-10% if you feel like doing so. Your total tip then is between 15% and 25%, which isn't any different than in the US. The difference is "gratuity" is uncommon here and required there. Prague generally does not include a service charge and unless you're dealing with an old communist-era establishment frequented by the elderly locals a tip is expected. Usually that takes the form of rounding up rather than a percentage, but roughly 10%. Sometimes its 7% and sometimes its 14%. It tends to even out. A few places do include gratuity listed separately (as it is in America), and that practice has the exact same stigma.

Just as in America, a waiter in France is dependent on tips. The difference is that the tips are mandatory in France and technically optional in the US.
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Corona the I.E.
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A restaurant deciding to raise its prices is not and should not be illegal; it's their prerogative. Paying below minimum wage should be illegal. Expected/required tipping from the customer in order to make up for the sleight is simply adding insult to injury.
I was shocked when I heard CO allowed servers to get paid something ridiculous like $2.35 or $3.10 hr plus tips that's slave labor, no thanks. Now I am sure some corporate apologist will come along and says those jobs were never meant to support a family
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:17 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I believe a restaurant would have to make up the difference if the wait staff didn't make enough in tips to get to minimum wage.

I also know plenty of wait staff that don't think they are paid slave wages.
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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I was shocked when I heard CO allowed servers to get paid something ridiculous like $2.35 or $3.10 hr plus tips that's slave labor, no thanks. Now I am sure some corporate apologist will come along and says those jobs were never meant to support a family
They also are required to pay minimum wage if the reduced minimum wage + tips is not equal to minimum wage. California doesn't have that. It's also one of the reasons I ignore the 20% is the new 15% rule here. generally, I tip 20% but my baseline is 15%. Usually service in American restaurants is very good so I rarely find it merely acceptable. The exception is Denny's where I often leave 10%. On the other hand, last time I was at Denny's I had great service. I just left a $20 which worked out to a ~25% tip.
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