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Old 06-16-2014, 01:36 PM
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If your making 100000 your either a 13 or 14. Not too many 15 running around.
Depending on location a GS12 S10 will make nearly 100k, and seeing as it's an IT role and not supervisory that is my guess.
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Old 06-16-2014, 02:25 PM
 
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If your making 100000 your either a 13 or 14. Not too many 15 running around.
I should have mentioned that its state employment, not federal. I'm at the highest classification/pay and there is no further upward movement. I may have to start looking at federal jobs as they tend to pay much more.
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Old 06-16-2014, 05:54 PM
 
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You may get a job in the private sector making 75% more but might you have to work 75% more hours as well?


Truth. Government is 8-4:30, M-F.
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Old 06-16-2014, 08:45 PM
 
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private section, unless you some type of elite on wall street, average pay no more than $65k. they might be some $170k jobs out there but only one or two
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Old 06-16-2014, 08:55 PM
 
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private section, unless you some type of elite on wall street, average pay no more than $65k. they might be some $170k jobs out there but only one or two
You obviously aren't familiar with the IT industry. If you've got the skills in certain areas within web development, content management, IT security, networking, etc... you can command upwards of 175k. 100-125k is about average these days.
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Old 06-16-2014, 09:05 PM
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You obviously aren't familiar with the IT industry. If you've got the skills in certain areas within web development, content management, IT security, networking, etc... you can command upwards of 175k. 100-125k is about average these days.
Cons of leaving:

-work more hours

-unstable compared to gov't job

-most likely less vacation time

-no pension

Pros:

-higher pay


Feel free to add to the lists or change anything, but I would start here. If you have a family make sure they are in the mix as to what and why you choose what you want. It never hurts to put out some feelers and see what there is out there and if you are indeed sought after, doesn't mean you have to take the job.
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Old 06-16-2014, 09:28 PM
 
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private section, unless you some type of elite on wall street, average pay no more than $65k. they might be some $170k jobs out there but only one or two
$65k for IT for 10 years? LOL. That's about what we pay our jr SQL developers with 2 years exp.

The 10 yr niche guys are commanding $150-200k+, without even being in wall street.
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Old 06-16-2014, 09:37 PM
 
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Part of knowing yourself is knowing when to say no to additional duties, particularly if you aren't being compensated for them. If I'm reading this correctly, you've willingly accepted all additional responsibilities piled on by your bosses. The first thing I would do is have a sit down with your boss, outline what you've posted here, and ask that they either give you a raise to match your duties, or take away some projects and distribute them around fairly to the remaining staff. I wouldn't threaten to leave unless you were willing to back it up.
Great advice from MPRetired.

These type of guys do it to themselves by taking on too much. They don't know when to say NO. I have seen them switch jobs only to end up in the same situation by the end of the year. They switch again and it piles on again. Then, they start to look around and wonder why it's not happening to their co-workers.

I had a friend go through this situation. He was burning out and ready to quit. After he talked to his supervisor, half of his projects got redistributed among other employees. He had taken on far more than the other employees. Now that the work load was rebalanced, he is happier.
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Old 06-16-2014, 10:31 PM
 
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$65k for IT for 10 years? LOL. That's about what we pay our jr SQL developers with 2 years exp.

The 10 yr niche guys are commanding $150-200k+, without even being in wall street.
This, 55-65k would be 2-3 years experience in my area. 120k + is with an MBA, or masters, and 7+ years experience. It also depends on the location, I'm in the east-coast.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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NO DON'T DO IT!!!!! BELIEVE ME I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THIS!!! I worked for the government and had a high level position. I was able to retire in my late fifties and have a pension as much as some people work full time for!!!! My husband got bit by the private sector jobs and left government. He will have to work until he is 66, has no pension other than Social security and what he saved in his 401K. He has been laid off and had to change jobs a number of times since leaving government and has been unemployed for stretches of time. Do not do it!!!!
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