Can you get fired for calling out without paid sick leave? (millionaire, work)
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Actually, at her job the sick hours accrued dont roll over into the following year and they get 7.30 hrs every 2 weeks. As for our oldest, shes still a teenager and even though she helps out when we are not there and at work, i dont think she could handle the baby in the state she was in from the teething, she would have drove her mad.
Also, my wife doesn't abuse her sick time. The last time she called out was around October. Another to keep in mind, I know this is probably not customary in other job fields, but in healthcare, when you call out you usually have to call out two days in a row otherwise they will mark it as an incident (i.e. calling out sick for one day and coming back the next doesn't make it seem like you're "sick" so to speak). When you call out three or more, they ask for a doc note.
You said in your original post My wife called out last week with her sick time due to "heavy" menstrual issues. That was the last of her sick time.
This week, she called one day (no sick time) cuz our baby girl wasnt feeling well. She was teething and in a lot of pain.
Now you say the last time she called out was in October? Which is it? Because in your OP it looks like she called out sick twice in this month alone, and with the last one she was out of sick time.
It depends on their policy. I feel the need to point out that neither of the issues you mentioned are illnesses. Does she abuse her sick time? That doesn't go over well.
Hospitals are especially picky about sick leave abuse because of the nature of the work; most of it cannot be put off until the next day so someone else is stuck doing your work. She should have been saving up her sick leave, not using it for her monthly.
That, and you really can't come to work when you are contagious and risk infecting the already ill patients.
Actually, at her job the sick hours accrued dont roll over into the following year and they get 7.30 hrs every 2 weeks. As for our oldest, shes still a teenager and even though she helps out when we are not there and at work, i dont think she could handle the baby in the state she was in from the teething, she would have drove her mad.
Also, my wife doesn't abuse her sick time. The last time she called out was around October. Another to keep in mind, I know this is probably not customary in other job fields, but in healthcare, when you call out you usually have to call out two days in a row otherwise they will mark it as an incident (i.e. calling out sick for one day and coming back the next doesn't make it seem like you're "sick" so to speak). When you call out three or more, they ask for a doc note.
How long is your teen daughter expected to babysit?
That's because the sick time is supposed to be used for actual contagious illness, not menstruation and teething.
She should get fired. And it doesn't matter whether there is a Union or not. Employers offer so much sick time and then when it's exhausted, you have to work.
This is not universally true. Once sick time is used up, in many companies, an employee can still call in sick, they just don't get paid for it.
A lot of assumptions are being made in this thread, for example the assumption that unused sick time accrues over the years. That's not true everywhere.
But to answer the OPs "can you get fired" question....you can get fired for excessive absence anywhere, how much sick time you have is often irrelevant.
If she hasn't called off since October, then she would still have time earned since Jan 1. At 7.3 hrs every two weeks, she would have had at least 3 days sick time. Something doesn't add up here.
He noted that the slate is cleaned every year so they start re accruing at the beginning of the year again.. In most companies they give you some sick time in the beginning.. apparently not so at this company..
Its the beginning of the year so with his 7 every two weeks that's 28 hours or close to it.. which means she has already called out almost 3 days in 2 months...
I have been to work everyday this year so far.. with no call outs... cant afford it.. even with sick leave in my bank. Just goes to show how people view the responsibility at work differently. Personally said.. I would have not called out for a "heavy" menstrual flow. That's a normal function that occurs occasionally with women. My opinion and I am sure that others have their opinion.. but its something a woman has to deal with every month.
My wife works for a hospital in NYC. Shes been there for like almost 15 years. They give paid sick time but have no union. My wife called out last week with her sick time due to "heavy" menstrual issues. That was the last of her sick time.
This week, she called one day (no sick time) cuz our baby girl wasnt feeling well. She was teething and in a lot of pain. I was already at work that day and she didnt want to leave our oldest daughter to watch her by herself like that. So no one else to watch her that day.
Do you think she will get fired or just a warning?
It depends. How many incidents do they allow her to have before termination?
We allow 8 in a rolling year..if you have PTO you must use it (we don't have sick time, just PTO) if you don't have PTO, it goes unpaid. Either way, it's still considered an incident.
She's out of sick time? How many absences does she have??
Actually, at her job the sick hours accrued dont roll over into the following year and they get 7.30 hrs every 2 weeks. As for our oldest, shes still a teenager and even though she helps out when we are not there and at work, i dont think she could handle the baby in the state she was in from the teething, she would have drove her mad.
Also, my wife doesn't abuse her sick time. The last time she called out was around October. Another to keep in mind, I know this is probably not customary in other job fields, but in healthcare, when you call out you usually have to call out two days in a row otherwise they will mark it as an incident (i.e. calling out sick for one day and coming back the next doesn't make it seem like you're "sick" so to speak). When you call out three or more, they ask for a doc note.
Not true for all health systems. If you call out two days in a row they 'might' count it as one incident, but it's still an incident.
Every employer is different and every HR policy handles these issues in a different way. Every State is different and handles these laws in a different way.
There's your short answer.
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