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Asking questions and negotiating in the job interview is fine. Once past the interview, when on the job, it is best not to ask questions when the actual work conditions change or are different from what was described in the job interview. If you ask questions that are out of the box, then you stand a strong chance of being fired. Most companies have a business to run and don't have time for ethics.
During my 35 year IT career, my colleagues and I knew that you could not rely on questions during the interview being answered truthfully. That is just the nature of the business world. Either you put up with it and pretend that you are "interested in your job" or you leave. Many of my colleagues left, many stayed. I stayed in my last IT job for 28 years. Did I like working for that company? Heck no! But the money was good.
But I think you have to be honest about something like a work schedule during a interview.
I’m not on the job yet. I don’t start for another week. I asked a few general questions during and after the offer. One of my questions was when did they want me to start after accepting the offer.
I see. I misunderstood, I thought that you were already working there.
That makes it worse. If you haven't started there, then they are being arrogant and think that you have no choice and must accept or that they have so many other candidates then if they lose you it won't matter to them. They may not be pleasant to work for if they are so stupid and disorganized.
It happened exactly as I explained it. You come across very hostile. That’s ok. I hope you have a better day tomorrow. Thanks.
You didn't explain it very well. You never said how many questions or what questions you had. You never said if they did or did not answer your remaining questions in the second email. You only mentioned two changes from interview - adding a 30-day "trial" and setting hours 9-6. Obviously, they addressed the hours as you requested 5:30 and they said no.
And the "trial" has no relevance to you, that's an internal paperwork item for them. You're always on "trial". They can let you go after 3 days if they feel it isn't working out. Or 60 days. Works the same way in reverse. You can decide after 3 or 30 days if you still want to work there.
In my experience, 80% of the "questions" come from 20% of the people. More often than not, the one who has all kinds of questions where most people have few or none ends up being a problem case.
If you need the job, take it, but don't stop looking. When you find something new and give give notice, request an exit interview and explain why your leaving.
If you need the job, take it, but don't stop looking. When you find something new and give give notice, request an exit interview and explain why your leaving.
Most company's don't want you to feel like permanent employee until they have a chance to see how you do. And, you might not like them so it is good time to see how it works both ways. Also, please remember, they are in charge so if they changed your hours, just smile and say "wonderful". If it really bothers you, start looking again. You can work on the hours after you have proved to them that you are worth being flexible with.
Be careful how and how often you ask questions as it seems your new manager might be a little touchy.
You didn't explain it very well. You never said how many questions or what questions you had. You never said if they did or did not answer your remaining questions in the second email. You only mentioned two changes from interview - adding a 30-day "trial" and setting hours 9-6. Obviously, they addressed the hours as you requested 5:30 and they said no.
And the "trial" has no relevance to you, that's an internal paperwork item for them. You're always on "trial". They can let you go after 3 days if they feel it isn't working out. Or 60 days. Works the same way in reverse. You can decide after 3 or 30 days if you still want to work there.
In my experience, 80% of the "questions" come from 20% of the people. More often than not, the one who has all kinds of questions where most people have few or none ends up being a problem case.
I hope you still have a job offer tomorrow.
I try not to ask no more than three questions maybe four but that's definitely the limit.
When an employer is looking for help, they may not know yet exactly what the entire job will be or the hours required. As it comes down to hiring someone and giving them a job offer, that's when the job should be reasonably written in stone. An employer is looking for someone to do a specific job the way they want it done and pay a specific wage for quality work. If there's any part of that you don't like, don't accept the job. Neither party is going to be happy. Doesn't make you an idiot and it doesn't make them a bad company. It's just not a good fit. From what I gather from this thread, you need to turn the job down and find something you'll be a lot happier at. Life is too short for BS.
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