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Old 03-08-2018, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Dessert
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anytime somebody said, "That's not in my job description!" my old boss would reply, "Hand me a pencil."
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:06 PM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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you will be the highest paid toilet cleaner... whats wrong with that?
You're not picking up the skills and connections in your career field for the degree, training, or experience you already put in. Cleaning toilets doesn't add much for the registered nurse, teacher, tech writer, software engineer, lawyer, accountant, construction worker, electrician, etc.
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It may be "beneath them". You worked hard so that you wouldn't have to literally clean up other people's ****.
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It may be "above them". I've known some office workers who are physically disabled, and really would not be able to clean toilets.
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Seattle Eastside
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What you expect in a role has no legal standing. You believe the tasks are below you BUT your management doesn't. Contractors are not employees and the contract can be terminated at any time. Those duties can be added to your plate.

Instead of complaining, a smart person would take on the new duties, tell your boss You're happy to take on the additional work, but that you want to be considered for a promotion. Then get the promotion and move to a different internal position.

Your complaining and grumbling won't help you. Be strategic and use this to your advantage.

I know what OP is talking about. I've seen fortune 500 companies pay six figures for people to maintain spreadsheets my fifth grader could maintain. It's mind-numbing, insulting, and stupid work for a seasoned professional, a waste of corporate money and a squandering of a potentially decent review on Glassdoor.

Jump at new skills and more responsibility, yes.

But when they ask you to do things that will actually prevent you from maintaining skills, and take away responsibility--leave.

Also, what someone expects is one thing. Some contracts actually have types of duties in them. And some people have terms of references. That's not some vague expectation.

How could you ask for a promotion if your new duties are stocking shelves and refreshing cells in an Excel sheet, but you are supposed to be a senior manager? That doesn't even make sense.
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:26 PM
 
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If you work under a contract that specifies job duties then yes, you probably have a good claim for breach of contract. Otherwise:

Why the job duties suddenly changed would matter to whatever legal claims you might have. If the employer had a legitimate reason to change your duties (reorganization, you were failing to adequately perform duties, etc.) then probably not much you can do. OTOH if the employer intentionally lured you from your prior employer with a promise of a job that didn't exist then maybe you have a claim. That can really vary by state. If you really think this is the case then you should talk to a local employment lawyer.
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Old 03-08-2018, 11:17 PM
 
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It may be "beneath them". You worked hard so that you wouldn't have to literally clean up other people's ****.
and all that crap about things being "beneath" them?

get over it, no one is owed/entitled a good job where they get to sit on a perch and glare down at people

if they don't like it, then quit

know who cares how hard you worked? your parents and no one else

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Old 03-08-2018, 11:24 PM
 
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This sounds like a standard answer from corporate employee, the op is basically saying you no power or leverage in the situation, They are saying your only choice is quit your job or take on the extra duties and hope you will get promoted.

There are too many people like, they will basically run around doing anything asked by employers with no significant pay increase.
The leverage that you bring to the table? That would be your knowledge/skills/abilities among other things. Those that don’t bring much to the table suck hind t!t. Those that bring a lot to the table do well.
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Old 03-08-2018, 11:36 PM
 
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If you work under a contract that specifies job duties then yes, you probably have a good claim for breach of contract.

<<SNIP>>
Depends. A quick search of employment contract provisions turned this up:

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The employer may want to make clear that it retains the option of changing the employee's job, by stating, "Executive will hold the position of Vice President of Marketing or such other position as the Company may assign to him."
I think it would be very foolish to not include such a provision.
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Old 03-09-2018, 06:56 AM
 
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NO. Try Canada.
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Old 03-09-2018, 07:00 AM
 
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I know what OP is talking about. I've seen fortune 500 companies pay six figures for people to maintain spreadsheets my fifth grader could maintain. It's mind-numbing, insulting, and stupid work for a seasoned professional, a waste of corporate money and a squandering of a potentially decent review on Glassdoor.

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That statement illustrates people's arguments when the argument is a false premise.

"Those people" are not being paid to "maintain a spreadsheet". And no, your fifth grader would have no CLUE. Like most of the people in your company would have no clue.

If you ever get one of those jobs it would have to be based on the experience of actually being responsible FOR those "spreadsheets". Not just assuming from a distance.

That's
what's insulting.
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:34 AM
 
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That statement illustrates people's arguments when the argument is a false premise.

"Those people" are not being paid to "maintain a spreadsheet". And no, your fifth grader would have no CLUE. Like most of the people in your company would have no clue.

If you ever get one of those jobs it would have to be based on the experience of actually being responsible FOR those "spreadsheets". Not just assuming from a distance.

That's
what's insulting.
Well said!
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