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Old 05-30-2018, 10:21 AM
 
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SO typical of today's litigation-obsessed society ...much ado about nothing. The waitress could simply have given the guy a piece of her mind and it would have been all over and done. But, no ...


Exactly. In addition, him being arrested is going to clog up the criminal justice system, cost tax payers money and will leave less resources to prosecute real criminals. Unless he already has a criminal record, he will not go to prison. This should be a civil violation with a fine.


I wonder if roles were reversed, would everyone say that woman who did this should be arrested?
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Old 05-30-2018, 10:32 AM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Exactly. In addition, him being arrested is going to clog up the criminal justice system, cost tax payers money and will leave less resources to prosecute real criminals. Unless he already has a criminal record, he will not go to prison. This should be a civil violation with a fine.


I wonder if roles were reversed, would everyone say that woman who did this should be arrested?
No men would have stood in line trying to arrange a date.
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Old 05-30-2018, 11:38 AM
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Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Helpful hint: touching other people in such a manner has NEVER been an acceptable practice.
Actually it has, society as a whole was tolerant of it as a 'boys will be boys' type of attitude, just as casting couches were 'accepted' and a whole host of other things were 'accepted' that are no longer tolerated. It doesn't mean people approved or thought it was right, or that every single person felt the same way about it. It doesn't mean it was practiced everywhere by everyone. It means that it was a part of the landscape, it happened and people turned a blind eye to it. Nobody complained to the cops, or pressed charges, or reported it to HR and a lot of us were told that we should expect it as a part of our jobs and to handle it as professionally as we could. If that doesn't mean that we accepted it as a society I don't don't know what would.
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Old 05-30-2018, 12:28 PM
 
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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Let me guess. You are male, and a white one at that.
Let me guess. You're a woman who sees toxic masculinity, patriarchy and misogyny everywhere you look?
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Old 05-30-2018, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Actually it has, society as a whole was tolerant of it as a 'boys will be boys' type of attitude, just as casting couches were 'accepted' and a whole host of other things were 'accepted' that are no longer tolerated. It doesn't mean people approved or thought it was right, or that every single person felt the same way about it. It doesn't mean it was practiced everywhere by everyone. It means that it was a part of the landscape, it happened and people turned a blind eye to it. Nobody complained to the cops, or pressed charges, or reported it to HR and a lot of us were told that we should expect it as a part of our jobs and to handle it as professionally as we could. If that doesn't mean that we accepted it as a society I don't don't know what would.

Those practices were never accepted in general. It was accepted that some people were too weak or black or poor to fight back. Nobody ever groped the boss's wife and, if somebody did, nobody turned a blind eye. Charges were very often pressed (or worse) if somebody poor or black did something to somebody rich and/or white.
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Old 05-30-2018, 12:47 PM
 
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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I would opt for a hefty fine + community service instead of jail time in cases like this.
I'm curious as to this assumption you, and majority here apparently make, and that is, the only proper response is some sort of state sanction.

Is it possible scenarios A, B, C ....... X, Y, Z are all undesirable outcomes, but only scenarios X, Y and Z warrant state intervention?
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Old 05-30-2018, 01:56 PM
 
Location: California
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Probably been doing things like this for years but nobody ever said anything and no consequences. Plus no videos years ago.
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Old 05-30-2018, 03:59 PM
 
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Actually it has, society as a whole was tolerant of it as a 'boys will be boys' type of attitude,
No, no, no--tolerant is not the word. It has always made most of us sick to our stomachs. The game is over now. We are done with it. One of my Supervisors told me a couple of years ago that I had nice legs. I was speechless at the time. Found it inappropriate. He said something worse to me over five years ago. It is over now---I won't be speechless anymore. I will report it.

Fortunately I work for a Company that those things are taken seriously.
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Old 05-30-2018, 04:12 PM
 
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Let me guess. You're a woman who sees toxic masculinity, patriarchy and misogyny everywhere you look?
I was right, wasn't I?
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Old 05-30-2018, 04:13 PM
 
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No, no, no--tolerant is not the word. It has always made most of us sick to our stomachs. The game is over now. We are done with it..
Yep - being powerless is not the same thing as being tolerant. Men, clue in. Time is up.
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