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I don't think anybody is going to make a livable wage from DoorDash in the long run regardless of where they live. The whole gig economy is a scam and the goal is to destroy enough of the competition that workers don't have a choice and they can make a huge profit by cutting wages.
I agree. But someone always posts “I know someone who does door Dash and they make $5000 a week” kind of stories as if that means DoorDash is a good option as a stand-alone job for most people.
I think the problem is they include a lot, like 3000, places as urban in their definition that no one would consider urban in real life. I live in one. It's not even a suburb. Just a cluster of houses surrounded by forest and farmland. But they list it as urban.
Yes I agree. It’s pretty obvious that 80% of Americans don’t live in cities. They used to only two categories, urban and rural. Much of America doesn’t fit either description.
I agree. But someone always posts “I know someone who does door Dash and they make $5000 a week” kind of stories as if that means DoorDash is a good option as a stand-alone job for most people.
Years back, I did pizza delivery and made good here and there. But a lot of wear & tear on my car and gas expense. There were guys who did well but they had consistently good routes with good tips and somehow had the pizza business "in their blood".
My daughter has done some Grubhub but doesn't keep good enough records for me to see whether she really clears much.
A nephew used to to Uber driving and said he did well with that.
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What's really happened is the workforce participation rate in the US has declined to about 61.6% from its historical, pre-pandemic 63%-ish. See the following chart:
Some of the decline in labor force participation is due to covid-related early retirements - some people approaching retirement age decided they had the financial resources to pull the trigger and retire, and the pandemic was a catalyst to do so.
But that doesn't explain all of the current very real worker shortage. Another phenomenon has surfaced, and it is quite interesting.
When the government was handing out pandemic-related free money, many people "banked the payments." They saved them. When their payments stopped, rather than return to work, they decided to live on their savings.
Such people made a choice to stay out of the workforce - they decided not to use their savings as a springboard to future intergenerational wealth or to a more affluent future retirement.
They said to themselves, "I've been doing nothing for the past year & a half, and I like doing nothing. I'm going to continue to do nothing until the money runs out."
Mark Zandi, an economist with Moody's Analytics, has done a deep dive into the financials of such people and forecasts they will run out of their savings and return to the workforce in the January timeframe.
Time will tell, of course. It is possible the labor force participation rate will jump back up to the historic 63-ish percent. Or not.
Unless you're living under a rock, oblivious to anything that's going on, or you have some sort of mental challenge that prohibits you from understanding reality, we are definitely experiencing a worker shortage.
As I see it, there are three solutions to the problem:
1. The "free" money to deadbeats who choose not to work will run out. Options: work or starve.
2. The populace who still decides that sitting at home beats earning an honest day's pay for an honest day's work will not be issued food stamps, rental assistance, cash assistance, etc. Options: work or starve.
3. Labor camps. Given the accelerated slide toward socialism that this country is currently on, it is a distinct possibility. Options are limited: work or starve.
The three solutions to our worker shortage do NOT include those who cannot fend for themselves, such as kids, elderly, the truly disabled.
It's beyond time to end this charade that because of "the virus", people cannot work. There have been those who have been on the job for well over 18 months, throughout this p(l)andemic, and they're still working.
Years back, I did pizza delivery and made good here and there. But a lot of wear & tear on my car and gas expense. There were guys who did well but they had consistently good routes with good tips and somehow had the pizza business "in their blood".
My daughter has done some Grubhub but doesn't keep good enough records for me to see whether she really clears much.
A nephew used to to Uber driving and said he did well with that.
I used to deliver for dominoes way back in the early 80’s when it was 30 minutes or free. Back then they were slamming busy, and on a good Friday night I might come home with $100 in tips, plus minimum wage of course. However on Tuesday Wednesday afternoon shift I would barely make anything. And yes, lots of wear and tear on my car. There were a few busy Friday nights, where I put 100 miles on my car all within a 5 mile radius. you’d get back to the store after delivering three pizzas, and they would meet you in the doorway and hand you 4 more.
It certainly was good money to me back then in my early 20s (and trying to get there before the 30 minutes was up was lots of fun, lol) but I lived with my grandmother. If I had had to live on my own, have my own apartment, it would’ve been woefully in adequate. I don’t think that these are for most people, self supporting jobs. And I think 40 or 50 years from now, there’s going to be an entire generation of people with no retirement savings at all without a 401k, pension, etc. You can’t even get disability or Worker’s Comp. if you get hurt or sick.
So again, I think they are great options for people who want to make extra money, but as a career option, I think it’s a dead end for most.
Unless you're living under a rock, oblivious to anything that's going on, or you have some sort of mental challenge that prohibits you from understanding reality, we are definitely experiencing a worker shortage.
As I see it, there are three solutions to the problem:
1. The "free" money to deadbeats who choose not to work will run out. Options: work or starve.
2. The populace who still decides that sitting at home beats earning an honest day's pay for an honest day's work will not be issued food stamps, rental assistance, cash assistance, etc. Options: work or starve.
3. Labor camps. Given the accelerated slide toward socialism that this country is currently on, it is a distinct possibility. Options are limited: work or starve.
The three solutions to our worker shortage do NOT include those who cannot fend for themselves, such as kids, elderly, the truly disabled.
It's beyond time to end this charade that because of "the virus", people cannot work. There have been those who have been on the job for well over 18 months, throughout this p(l)andemic, and they're still working.
I don’t think there is a single state where people are still collecting unemployment from Covid. Those benefits have stopped quite a while ago now. I don’t know a single person who is not working. I really don’t think that’s the reason for the worker shortage. I think it probably contributed to it, but I think the lack of foreign workers being able to come here is probably a much bigger reason for the shortage. I think people underestimate how much our economy was reliant on foreign workers.
But I think the reasons are actually quite varied. There’s not a shortage of nurses in my nursing home because there’s a bunch of RNs and LPNs who decided to simply give up their professional careers and go on welfare. It’s just not the case. The shortages span too many employment areas to try to lay it all on one group of people, I will assume you are referring to lower income people in lower wage jobs. But that is not the only area that there are big shortages in.
Aside from that, the shortages are also found in very conservative states that do not have generous entitlement programs and stopped pandemic unemployment a long time ago.
I used to deliver for dominoes way back in the early 80’s when it was 30 minutes or free. Back then they were slamming busy, and on a good Friday night I might come home with $100 in tips, plus minimum wage of course. However on Tuesday Wednesday afternoon shift I would barely make anything. And yes, lots of wear and tear on my car. There were a few busy Friday nights, where I put 100 miles on my car all within a 5 mile radius. you’d get back to the store after delivering three pizzas, and they would meet you in the doorway and hand you 4 more.
It certainly was good money to me back then in my early 20s (and trying to get there before the 30 minutes was up was lots of fun, lol) but I lived with my grandmother. If I had had to live on my own, have my own apartment, it would’ve been woefully in adequate. I don’t think that these are for most people, self supporting jobs. And I think 40 or 50 years from now, there’s going to be an entire generation of people with no retirement savings at all without a 401k, pension, etc. You can’t even get disability or Worker’s Comp. if you get hurt or sick.
So again, I think they are great options for people who want to make extra money, but as a career option, I think it’s a dead end for most.
And you own any speeding ticket and pay for any accidents. I banged up my front end slipping on ice. That killed my profits for the next few months.
Unless you're living under a rock, oblivious to anything that's going on, or you have some sort of mental challenge that prohibits you from understanding reality, we are definitely experiencing a worker shortage.
As I see it, there are three solutions to the problem:
1. The "free" money to deadbeats who choose not to work will run out. Options: work or starve.
2. The populace who still decides that sitting at home beats earning an honest day's pay for an honest day's work will not be issued food stamps, rental assistance, cash assistance, etc. Options: work or starve.
3. Labor camps. Given the accelerated slide toward socialism that this country is currently on, it is a distinct possibility. Options are limited: work or starve.
The three solutions to our worker shortage do NOT include those who cannot fend for themselves, such as kids, elderly, the truly disabled.
It's beyond time to end this charade that because of "the virus", people cannot work. There have been those who have been on the job for well over 18 months, throughout this p(l)andemic, and they're still working.
Some bits of truth here. My company has had a hard time, with near 0 attendance at job fairs. But my daughter has chased down a lot of openings & hit a lot of dead ends. Several jobs paid less than advertised once she signed on. No real recourse in our state.
Go to a website for Indeed, Jobhat or other agencies. Notice that many of their ads turn into something else when you click on them. An Amtrak heading turns into a diesel mechanics job at some other place or a produce manager at a supermarket. Don't take my word for it, see for yourself. Lots of deceit out there. I don't have space to tell you about what my daughter has run into.
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