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Old 12-22-2012, 07:10 PM
 
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German cities small? Berlin is larger than any Canadian city by size and population.
I'm not too sure about that maybe, you be the judge...

Berlin city population is 3.5 million in 344 square miles
Berlin Region metro population is 4.4 million in 4,412 square miles

Toronto city population is 2.6 million in 241 square miles
Toronto metro population is 5.6 million in 2,751 square miles

Overall Toronto IMO has a larger population....Greater Toronto Area (GTA) population is 6 million
Toronto Golden Horseshoe Area population is 8.8 million

Montreal ain't too shabby either...

Montreal city population 1.6 million in only 167 square miles
Montreal metro population 3.9 million in only 1,644 square miles

Montreal is smaller than Berlin but not that much smaller and has a higher population density
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:14 AM
 
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I'm not too sure about that maybe, you be the judge...

Berlin city population is 3.5 million in 344 square miles
Berlin Region metro population is 4.4 million in 4,412 square miles

Toronto city population is 2.6 million in 241 square miles
Toronto metro population is 5.6 million in 2,751 square miles

Overall Toronto IMO has a larger population....Greater Toronto Area (GTA) population is 6 million
Toronto Golden Horseshoe Area population is 8.8 million

Montreal ain't too shabby either...

Montreal city population 1.6 million in only 167 square miles
Montreal metro population 3.9 million in only 1,644 square miles

Montreal is smaller than Berlin but not that much smaller and has a higher population density

Ah okay, i almost thought so.
I was just referring to the ignorant statement of "StoneColdAustin" who claimed that German cities are tiny.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:43 AM
 
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Germany definitely, It's in the center of europe, which means you can travel to so many exciting countries/cities within couple of hours.

Germany has more of a real culture, canada culture is more recent and transplanted.

Germans seem way more smart, both guys and girls. The canadians are more akin to americans and australians, the young people seem to mature at way older age compared to germans and other continental europeans.

Germany is more people friendly, the cities are designed for people, many suburbs in canada barely have sidewalks and are completly car-friendly such as most mid/big cities in the US.

Canada looks to me like a safe place to be but I woulf find it boring compared to germany, too big country with too few people, and the closest country you have is just the US.

Germany has an amount of cities of high quality of life that nobody can comes close such as hamburg, berlin, munich, frankfurt, stuttgart, dusseldorf, cologne,etc
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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Germany is a joke compared to Canada.

I have lived in both countries. The first things I noticed when visiting major German cities

1. People out of shape, specially girls
2. People stressed out and unfriendly
3. Very over crowded. You have to push to get into bus/train, find a place to live, etc
4. uneducated immigrants
5. customer service sucks. do not bother to complain about anything
6. dirty offices (go for instance to registration office KVR, finanzamt, MacDonald ...)
7. small land. cities are small too. You can probably cycle most cities in 1 hour or so. Canada has a massive scenery, big cities
8. arguably racist society.
9. streets do not compare well with canada
10. paper work, paper work, paper work.. they make you cry
11. No German university ranks among world top 50s. Universities suck. Small and ****ty infrastructure.
12. Cannot find any information online. You want to change your driver's licence? good luck!
13. disaster in housing. hard to find; small; ridiculously over-priced and usually not furnished. Not even a goddamn kitchen. You have to pay 3 months rent ahead+agency fee+contract fee for minimum 1 year for a ****ty place (just walls!)
14. No respect for privacy
15. everything is small. food portion, offices, rooms,
14. so many old people lool
15. everywhere you pay by cash. credit card not accepted usually
16. stores close at 8 ****ing pm
17. elevator unfriendly
18. too socialist, too much tax. you ain't make no money here
19. LOWER QUALITY OF LIFE
20. poor people (enough to look at dirty cloth people have to wear)
21. limited countryside
22. probably more expensive, lower salaries

I can go on and on ... )))

the only upside is that they make good products. And yes, even the transit system in Canada is better. Because 1) German cities are small anyways, you can cycle or drive or maybe walk 2) you get no seat to sit 3) you have to pay according to 45 rules, depending on where you are, where you want to go, how many stops, only subway or subway and bus, how long, ...
1) It depends where you go in germany. I have been to northwestern germany and fat people is definitely a rare sight there. Maybe in southern germany its a different story though.

7) in Canada you have only like 3 big cities the rest are just towns, you have to travel hours just to see another city, in germany at the same time you can visit several cities.

Canada is definitely overrated, so is Australia and the US, they just cant simply compete with european countries, definitely not with their architecture, history, charm of the cities, whole going out atmosphere, intelligence and beauty of average woman you see walking down on streets.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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Ah okay, i almost thought so.
I was just referring to the ignorant statement of "StoneColdAustin" who claimed that German cities are tiny.

Well I'd actually expect it from anybody enough "smart" to use a name of a wrestler to post in this forum.

The only childish people who keep watching wwe shows even when they are hittin their 30's and wear baggy clothes like they were rappers are americans (and to lesser extent other anglospheric people).
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:56 AM
 
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Common, I really do not want to be biased, that's just the way it is. Is not there someone in this whole country to spend 3 hours making this scanned PDF of 1890 a little nicer, fillable, and also put a guide how to answer each question?

http://www.germany.info/contentblob/...g_Term_PDF.pdf

You don't even know what this is.

this is german embassy in NYC. Compare that with

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kit...s/IMM5645E.pdf

You do realize that this is only one part of the application, don't you?
Ah, what am I saying. Of course you don't.
This is a "Family information" form where you list whatever info about your family. That's a required form for temporary resident visas, applying for a work permit outside of Canada, application to study in Canada etc.

Here, that's what you were looking for:

Applying as a Skilled Worker

You need..

- Generic Application Form to Canada
- Schedule A: Background Declaration
- Additional Dependents/Declaration (if applicable)
- Supplementary Information - Your travels
- Schedule 3: Economic classes
- Additional Family Information
- Use of representative

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kit...0008ENU_2D.pdf


You really think I'm that gullible and buy into all the crap that's posted on this forum - without looking at it?


There are nice guides and tons of well-organized well-structured instructions, and you can even submit it online.

You can?

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Mail your fully completed application to the Centralized Intake Office (CIO) in Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada.



Anyways, all I am saying is that, Germany is a great country. It has historically contributed to art, science, technology, and philosophy more than any other country that I know. You guys are smart, but you need some reforms to catch up and maintain your status.
Who is "you guys" ? You are our 51st state.
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:21 AM
 
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I believe Don Caballero has a point : Germany is definitively a crowded country (82 million inhabitants on a smallish chunk of land) and its scenery cannot even begin to compare with Canada's. The climate is cold continental/oceanic, so not better than Canada (winter cold not so extreme, but no real hot summers, a bit like East Anglia, a lot of fog). Service as I remember it was not very good, as a foreigner you are looked down upon (and believe me, although I speak fluent German, they knew perfectly well, because of my demeanor and accent, that I was a foreigner).Germany is not a "service " society. And the "krimkram" (heavy bureaucracy & paperwork) is famous, even among the Germans themselves!
I've met a lot of Germans and Quebec Canadians in my life, where the Germans are "korrekt" and ice cold (only after a few beers do they start to melt up, and it can be awkward, they start bellowing and singing loudly, a bit like the British, they call it "socializing", "Gemütlich" (geeez...), every Quebec person I met was warm, smiling, considerate (and proufd to be from the "Belle Province" whereas the Germans still carry a heavy burden of guilt(unwanrranted I believe) because of "The Past"...a big difference of character!
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Old 12-23-2012, 05:17 PM
 
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Germany definitely, It's in the center of europe, which means you can travel to so many exciting countries/cities within couple of hours.

Germany has more of a real culture, canada culture is more recent and transplanted.

Germans seem way more smart, both guys and girls. The canadians are more akin to americans and australians, the young people seem to mature at way older age compared to germans and other continental europeans.

Germany is more people friendly, the cities are designed for people, many suburbs in canada barely have sidewalks and are completly car-friendly such as most mid/big cities in the US.

Canada looks to me like a safe place to be but I woulf find it boring compared to germany, too big country with too few people, and the closest country you have is just the US.

Germany has an amount of cities of high quality of life that nobody can comes close such as hamburg, berlin, munich, frankfurt, stuttgart, dusseldorf, cologne,etc
Quality of life is definitely lower in Germany. Salaries are lower, heavily taxed, and on top of that everything here seems to be more expensive (except maybe food). Just open amazon.com and amazon.de and search an item in both, like a pair of Levis jeans or whatever.

Why is everything more expensive in Germany? - Yahoo! Answers

your purchasing power is noticeably lower in Germany. Forget about hunting trips; even a decent gym and pool membership together cost 200 EUR in Germany (90 EUR gym, about 5 EUR per pool session), somethig that is 40 bucks/month combined back home.

On the other hand you could say, well, they get more social services. To some degree this is true, at least compared to states. In TX I made a very good salary running a small business and paid little or no tax. Housing is darn cheap in TX. But we got no free health insurance in states, and you are on your own if you get sick, old or unemployed (though Canada has free health insurance).

At the end, I think it depends how much you make. Germany maybe is good if you make an average salary or lower, you live off other people in a way. US is probably better if you make a six figure salary, you save $$ (though you can lose it all if you break your neck or reach your 60s). america is also stressful in terms of job security, everyday you can be fired or out of bushiness. In Germany I got the signature of 46 people that I do not think anyone can fire me ))
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Old 12-23-2012, 07:17 PM
 
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I prefer German cities like Munich and Hamburg, German cities have excellent mass transit, arguably the best in Europe, and very efficient, not to mention very clean, almost spotless, amazing connectivity between domestic and foreign destinations, a strong, stable economy with hard-working people who actually save money.

Germany has a high population density, I'm used to being in a country with a lot of people in a small area, Canada is so vast and half of it is empty. You could live in Toronto, but I'd feel like there are only so many places I'd be willing to live in.

Germany also has East Germany, which is still pretty poor and receives European Structural Funding. Munich, Frankfurt and Hamburg are among Europe's wealthiest cities.

I think it comes down to where you live. Americans will lean towards Canada because it's essentially the US but with universal healthcare (sorry, Canadians..). Europeans will trend towards Germany because it's more familiar and has greater similarities with home. Germans love beer and eat food that isn't good for them - it's just like here!
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:45 PM
 
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I prefer German cities like Munich and Hamburg, German cities have excellent mass transit, arguably the best in Europe, and very efficient, not to mention very clean, almost spotless, amazing connectivity between domestic and foreign destinations, a strong, stable economy with hard-working people who actually save money.

Germany has a high population density, I'm used to being in a country with a lot of people in a small area, Canada is so vast and half of it is empty. You could live in Toronto, but I'd feel like there are only so many places I'd be willing to live in.

Germany also has East Germany, which is still pretty poor and receives European Structural Funding. Munich, Frankfurt and Hamburg are among Europe's wealthiest cities.

I think it comes down to where you live. Americans will lean towards Canada because it's essentially the US but with universal healthcare (sorry, Canadians..). Europeans will trend towards Germany because it's more familiar and has greater similarities with home. Germans love beer and eat food that isn't good for them - it's just like here!
Not sure I agree completely. I, for example, like both kinds of situations. I like living in a dense, urban environment - and you can find that in the US, just ask anyNew Yorker! By the same token, I like the option of being able to get away too.

My one experience of Germany left me completely impressed at just about everything - the cleanliness, efficiency, technology, the food, the beer...and yes, even the scenery. How could someone not be impressed by the castles on the Rhine? Or a Roman aquaduct from 300 BC in the center of Wiesbaden?

I guess my point is that I don't like having to choose any one place completely..
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