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I'd prefer Sydney on all counts. I think SF is in a beautiful setting, but that's it. SF has become very dirty and evidently is ok with that. Otherwise the city would deal with that fact. Sydney seems to have it's act together, and is in a country that is more stable. SF is in a state and a country, that is crumbling.
I hate to say this since I live in the states. SF was once a top city, and it's a shame what happened to it. It's completely unaffordable and your falling over homeless. The city does nothing to fix itself.
To call the US and California "crumbling" is anti-American claptrap, and I'm utterly ****ing exhausted at the amount of times I've had to call it out.
California rose past the UK in economic clout this decade, and the US has always maintained it's high GDP and quality of life. So stop.
But rent is so expensive in Sydney. $65k AUD/year in Sydney gives you a nice lifestyle. Living in the inner city, cheap travels to Asia, food quality is better here, public transport is cleaner and the whole city is safer by all means.
Food quality isn't better there. You don't grow as much of your own produce, and you're not at the receiving end of as wide an array of shipping lanes.
Yes, San Francisco has lots of red tape and radical socialist-environmentalists who hate sprawl with a passion. Same with Vancouver. San Francisco and Vancouver have a TON in common in terms of how progressive their politics are. The two most left-wing cities in North America.
Would you say Sydney is as left wing as either SF or Vancouver? Yes, Canada and Australia as a whole are more left wing than the U.S. as a whole. But California is also far to the left of the U.S. political average.
California may not have universal health care but that is only because healthcare in the U.S. is a federal rather than a state issue.
It isn't true that Canada and Australia are "are more left wing", because that is an arbitrary and subjective designation. In many cultural/social aspects, Canada and Australia are to the right of the US, especially Australia.
And of course, I'm focusing on the gauged American/Australian/Canadian median. People often unfairly judge the US by it's political and social extremes, or fringes, rather than it's political average.
It's always amusing to hear people call France secular and liberal even though it has nearly 800,000 evangelicals these days. People should stop thinking they can paint countries in such broad brushes, they usually never have enough cultural/ethnic/financial/racial/political uniformity to do so.
North America a continent, and you're actually wrong. Nowhere in Australia has the homeless density of San Francisco and LA, following Vancouver, but Australia has a larger proportional population of homeless people relative to the US as a whole.
Haha yea right. I wouldn’t live in that hole if you paid me. I spent some time in SF in 2018 and on my first day there I felt like being in a movie set of zombies, it looked like “the walking deadâ€. Homeless people EVERYWHERE. Australia has a great welfare system and takes care of their citizens, something that Americans would be jealous of. Sydney has homeless people but it’s nothing like anything I saw in the USA or Canada (Montreal).
The homeless people there can be violent too. You even have an app to report feces around SF’s street lol https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www....t-13281837.php
**Edit: if the number of homeless people is small in Sydney and Melbourne, it is even lower in the other cities. So no, Australia DOES NOT have a larger proportional population of homeless people relative to the US as a whole. WHAT A JOKE.
The worst thing about San Francisco is that its metropolitan area won't build more housing more quickly. The areas next to BART stations in the Bay Area are often parking lots and low-rise structures instead of taller, mixed-use developments which is pretty silly given the traffic and high-housing prices. A quick massive zoning bonus near frequent transit stops and greater investment in mass transit could greatly improve things in SF.
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Food quality isn't better there. You don't grow as much of your own produce, and you're not at the receiving end of as wide an array of shipping lanes.
Food quality is, otherwise, much the same.
Having spent much time in both places, i would say the food quality is better in San Francisco. Far better sea food. Although you do have to avoid the tourists traps of ChinaTown.
It isn't true that Canada and Australia are "are more left wing", because that is an arbitrary and subjective designation. In many cultural/social aspects, Canada and Australia are to the right of the US, especially Australia.
And of course, I'm focusing on the gauged American/Australian/Canadian median. People often unfairly judge the US by it's political and social extremes, or fringes, rather than it's political average.
It's always amusing to hear people call France secular and liberal even though it has nearly 800,000 evangelicals these days. People should stop thinking they can paint countries in such broad brushes, they usually never have enough cultural/ethnic/financial/racial/political uniformity to do so.
There's a lot of truth in that. People just like to bash America as a right wing fringe place. They are geographically ignorant of America, and think that anywhere in the US that isn't California or New York is rural Texas. They think all of the U.S. is as conservative as the South.
I love both of these cities and am glad to see they are both so close (rightfully) in the polls. There is no "clearly" superior city.
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