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Yes, there is alot of ethnic and cultural difference among Latin Americans, but there is also many similarities. If you look at the way most middle class Latinos live, there is not awhole lot of difference from country to country. Often they share the same values and out look on life. They speak with different accents but the language is the same, religion is mostly the same. People don't listen to music from their own country only, certain music is listened to everywhere.
^ I'm familiar with the Anglosphere nations, been to all except Canada. Sure, the differences are noticeable, especially between the Commonwealth and the US, but I feel people in general tend to overrate differences and forget the similarities. Our common British heritage (from law, politics, cuisine, culture) and social customs. Australia and New Zealand are very similar. Just because someone gets angry being mistaken for another nation does not mean they are so different from that other country. Sure we make fun of each other, but it's like sibling squabbling, since we're so close. I suspect the same could be said of the Hispanic nations. A Chilean and a Venezeulan might say 'ola' when they're in Thailand and immediately feel common ground with each other.
Yes, there is alot of ethnic and cultural difference among Latin Americans, but there is also many similarities. If you look at the way most middle class Latinos live, there is not awhole lot of difference from country to country. Often they share the same values and out look on life. They speak with different accents but the language is the same, religion is mostly the same. People don't listen to music from their own country only, certain music is listened to everywhere.
Definitely, but you definitely cannot lump them all together. The are all different and have different cultures.
I find often from talking to other Latinos, they don't like being lumped with other Latinos becuase they view certain countries as being poorer or of a lower class. Many latinos still think being more "white" is better, the funny thing about that is NO latin country is really well off as white as they might be they are all poor. In the end, we got most of culture from the Spanish. But the most interesting countries often have large percentage of Native ancestry and the best muisc by far comes from countries with large communities of people of African heritage. If it wasn't for these communities Latin America would be pretty unknown to the World.
Another thing middle and upper class latinos have in common is that they can be very superficial, arrogant and racist.
However let's not get it twisted, there are still many blacks, mulattoes, mestizos, afromestizos, eurozambos, castizos, chinos, Indios, y judios(Jews) in Argentina. Argentina often hides the rest of it's diversity.
Where are you from? You usually claim the existence of many afro-argentines who are hidden due to some white pride or something but do you have any figures about the demography of Argentina?
Whites and mestizos are the predominant groups and make up over the 90% the population.
Jews, Arabs (mostly Syrio-Lebanese descents) and Armenian descents are always considered White and were never hidden. Inside the diverse mestizo group there are mixed-race people with African ancestry. According to some genetical studies, the amount of people with African markers is about 2-4%, which turned to be a surprisingly high number, but phenotypically only a small fraction has traits (usually mixed) and few see themselves as Afro-argentines.
Then the next racial group after the two aforementioned would be the amerindian, including native peoples and full descendants. There are many in the northwest of the country, but I guess its number has increased a lot lately due to Bolivian and Peruvian immigration, who settled mostly in Buenos Aires.
Finally we must count African and Asian descendants. There were a good number of Korean and Japanese people who migrated to Argentina many years ago, whereas many Chinese people are still coming. This diaspora in particular is becoming certainly numerous and very visible. Still, Asians and their descendants don't count very much statistically. Then, black people in Argentina. There are mulattoes and full black-argentines who come from many generations in the country, but very few. More commonly, black people in Argentina are mostly very recent immigrants from other Latin American countries and West Africa (especially Senegal).
A group that seems to be very rare in Argentina is people from the Indian Subcontinent, which is kind of strange considering all the diverse immigration.
^ I'm familiar with the Anglosphere nations, been to all except Canada. Sure, the differences are noticeable, especially between the Commonwealth and the US, but I feel people in general tend to overrate differences and forget the similarities. Our common British heritage (from law, politics, cuisine, culture) and social customs. Australia and New Zealand are very similar. Just because someone gets angry being mistaken for another nation does not mean they are so different from that other country. Sure we make fun of each other, but it's like sibling squabbling, since we're so close. I suspect the same could be said of the Hispanic nations. A Chilean and a Venezeulan might say 'ola' when they're in Thailand and immediately feel common ground with each other.
But that's in terms of shared language. As I like to say, "they're similar, but they're also different".
The main thing though is that there is lots of mutual differences between nations that speak the same language.
Where are you from? You usually claim the existence of many afro-argentines who are hidden due to some white pride or something but do you have any figures about the demography of Argentina?
Whites and mestizos are the predominant groups and make up over the 90% the population.
Jews, Arabs (mostly Syrio-Lebanese descents) and Armenian descents are always considered White and were never hidden. Inside the diverse mestizo group there are mixed-race people with African ancestry. According to some genetical studies, the amount of people with African markers is about 2-4%, which turned to be a surprisingly high number, but phenotypically only a small fraction has traits (usually mixed) and few see themselves as Afro-argentines.
Then the next racial group after the two aforementioned would be the amerindian, including native peoples and full descendants. There are many in the northwest of the country, but I guess its number has increased a lot lately due to Bolivian and Peruvian immigration, who settled mostly in Buenos Aires.
Finally we must count African and Asian descendants. There were a good number of Korean and Japanese people who migrated to Argentina many years ago, whereas many Chinese people are still coming. This diaspora in particular is becoming certainly numerous and very visible. Still, Asians and their descendants don't count very much statistically. Then, black people in Argentina. There are mulattoes and full black-argentines who come from many generations in the country, but very few. More commonly, black people in Argentina are mostly very recent immigrants from other Latin American countries and West Africa (especially Senegal).
A group that seems to be very rare in Argentina is people from the Indian Subcontinent, which is kind of strange considering all the diverse immigration.
What do you mean, I usually claim?? Claim what? Please point specifically where I made such claims of Argentina and a hidden agenda due to white pride? Please quote me and where it was stated specifically please. I NEVER claimed that any population was hidden due to some white pride or white supremacy agenda. You were the one that mentioned that. All I said is that many people in Argentina and outside of Argentina hide that there are other aspects of Argentina that are often overlooked and that's due to lack of awareness or ignorance and obscurity.
According to an Afro-Argentine activist, it was estimated that there are more than 2 million Afro-Argentine/Afro-descendants living in Argentina. There are some other sources that said higher but of course new information and observations are always being released and collected. It's still a topic that requires great extensive research and travel etc.
Most Afro-Argentines are descendants of slaves and Africans that arrived during the colonial period, but mixing with other races has diluted and/or obscured their demographic presence. And yes there are significant numbers of Afrodescendants that have arrived into Argentina from Brazil, Cape Verde, and also people from Dominican Republic that have a stereotype of being prostitutes in Argentina or other reasons. Then there are people from the African nation that you mentioned.
There are also many Jewish descendants in Argentina from the colonial period but also from those that fled to escape persecution from Nazi Europe and Holocaust. There were also Nazis that fled to escape trials and consequences for their active participation in Nazism and World War 2 and many settled in Argentina. Then of course there were many Italians and Spaniards that came.
And then there are sizable numbers of Asian descendants. It's very diverse.
And then there are minorities of Native American descendants etc. Many have mixed in/and/or out with other racial and ethnic groups
My main point was that Argentina has diversity of other populations that are overlooked from outsiders from outside the region etc.
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