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Old 12-10-2023, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Yea, I think that's quite impressive. They're also emitting a lot less pollution of all sorts per capita. Hopefully they rapidly continue with that trend. Current projections are that next year is when they reach peak petrol demand next year with only an incremental increase from this year which is pretty wild.
That's right - per CAPITA the average Chinese person uses far less energy than the average American, about 10.1 tons of carbon pollution annually compared to 17.6 ton in the U.S.
You all are arguing that China is such bad pollutant compared to the US, totally forgetting that China population is 4.35 times the US population.
While in the US per person emission rate has continued to drop - the country's 2021 per person carbon dioxide emissions were still nearly twice as large as China's and nearly 8 times as large as India's.

China’s strict policy action led to a swift reduction in pollution. From 2013 to 2020, particulate pollution in China declined by almost 40%

To place China’s impact into context, it took several decades and recessions for the US and Europe to achieve the same pollution reductions that China was able to accomplish in 7 years, even as it continued to grow its economy.

So, yes - they do a lot for the environment and what they do is very impressive.

https://epic.uchicago.edu/insights/c...rict-policies/
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Old 12-11-2023, 06:56 AM
 
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That's right - per CAPITA the average Chinese person uses far less energy than the average American, about 10.1 tons of carbon pollution annually compared to 17.6 ton in the U.S.
You all are arguing that China is such bad pollutant compared to the US, totally forgetting that China population is 4.35 times the US population.
While in the US per person emission rate has continued to drop - the country's 2021 per person carbon dioxide emissions were still nearly twice as large as China's and nearly 8 times as large as India's.

China’s strict policy action led to a swift reduction in pollution. From 2013 to 2020, particulate pollution in China declined by almost 40%

To place China’s impact into context, it took several decades and recessions for the US and Europe to achieve the same pollution reductions that China was able to accomplish in 7 years, even as it continued to grow its economy.

So, yes - they do a lot for the environment and what they do is very impressive.

https://epic.uchicago.edu/insights/c...rict-policies/
Mainly because those countries are poorer.....much poorer per capita....

If/when they become "wealthier" ....their emission per capital will increase substantially....
and with their gigantic populations......that will be a big problem....

As for diversity....USA and China are the top two....
though I would like to point out that the USA has huge not so diverse "middle section", quite flat and boring with variations of the same climate Dfa....where you can drive for miles and miles ....seeing the same corn fields....let's say from
Ohio to eastern Nebraska....so in that regard....there are smaller countries,
like Colombia, with amazing diversity in a smaller geographic area, the key to which is having very high mountains....without those mountains....much less diversity.

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Old 12-11-2023, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Mainly because those countries are poorer.....much poorer per capita....

If/when they become "wealthier" ....their emission per capital will increase substantially....
and with their gigantic populations......that will be a big problem.....
Maybe. Now that everyone is aware of the problem and most countries take steps to mitigate it, the emission might not increase substantially.
China experienced very strong productivity growth, spurred by the 1978 market-oriented reforms and unprecedented economic performance but they also are doing a lot to leverage green technologies. They aggressively seek to reduce carbon emissions. More than 90% of Chinese cities have adopted eco-city programs.
China pledge to reach carbon neutrality before 2060. Wind and solar power are booming there. They are building up more solar power capacity than the entire rest of the world.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66043485
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