Why do British people continue to immigrate still in large numbers to Australia and New Zealand (but not, say Canada)? (real estate, housing)
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I believe the average house size in Australia passed that of the U.S. in recent years and is now the largest in the world.
Yep, I think everything here is too big. Houses, cars, roads, shopping malls - and the attendant consumption of resources. Not something to boast about.
=markovian process;34482583]Generally, people in countries that are industrialized stop emigrating in large numbers (eg. Irish and Italian immigration to the New World has slowed since Ireland and Italy are now rich), so rich countries generally stop getting immigration from other rich countries but instead get immigration from poorer countries. Many New World countries, from Canada to Argentina once received very large numbers of European or British Isles immigrants but very few in modern times.
But for Australia and New Zealand, it seems immigration from the UK still seems high up into very recent times.
Why is that? It seems like in the US and Canada, most immigration is from poorer countries (Mexico, China, India) and few from developed ones any more (like Italy, Ireland, the UK, even Japan). Why does Australia and New Zealand still attract immigrants from a rich, western country?
Is it still true to this date? the emigration pattern of Scots to Canada/NZ in proportions to overall British emigrants.
In the case of Canada anyway, the preponderance of Scottish immigrants from the UK is a historic thing, not a current thing. I don't believe there are any more Scots arriving than people from England. If anything, from that part of the world in recent years it is the Irish (from the Republic) that are arriving in Canada in numbers disproportionate to their overall population size.
Yes, it's true many convicts were Irish, but Australia's society, while it began as a prison/convict settlement (or rather settlements), was modelled on the British system from the beginning. There were many free settlers, many quite wealthy, and of course convicts who became free settlers, it's not like Australia was just convicts. Several settlements like Melbourne and Adelaide weren't even convict colonies at all.
I think there is validity in what both you and Richard said.
On the one hand, it is true the number of Irish in early Australia has given the country a more gregarious and exuberant character that contrasts with most of Canada (except for Newfoundland and Quebec) which tends to be more "stiff upper lip", reserved and sober.
On the other hand, both Canada and Australia were set up societally, politically (governance), and socially with the UK as inspiration, and in a sense they are quite similar in many ways. Although Canada as I said is more American-influenced (always has been, and this has grown steadily during its history).
I know that some people will point to the fact that Australia has states (Canada has provinces), a House of Representatives (Canada has a House of Commons) and a Senate (Canada also has a Senate), but these are more questions of semantics more than anything and the Australian and Canadian political systems are close to being identical and are Westminster-inspired, and aren't really similar to the U.S. system.
oh their are things about them which i dont particulary like either but i was listing the qualitys
the insistance on having tea and buns during a party instead of beer would be a big NO NO for me
Ugh I don't know. I don't judge a person on their religion. But really they do get on my nerves sometimes with their bigoted, sour, self important attitude - there really is no need for it. It doesn't really benefit them though because once they leave Northern Ireland people put them in their place.
Australia does have big roads and big houses compared to the UK. That's a fact. It's not even up for argument.
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Get ready for some Yanks !
