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Old 04-24-2014, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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When I went to Canada, even though I live in a border state, it felt significantly different than the US. This was in Niagara Falls and Toronto Pearson Airport. I would say Canada does feel closer to the UK in its ambiance
The ambience was noticeable straight away. The general demeanour of people seemed quite different to the US.
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Old 04-24-2014, 01:38 PM
 
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In Canada at least there was a very high propensity for Scots to emigrate here. When you consider that the population of Scotland is one tenth that of England, Canada got way way more Scots.

I don't know if it's because Canada's rugged terrain and climate appealed to Scots more, or if conditions there were simply worse than in England, but in any event there were many Scots who came to Canada.

Canada's first two prime ministers were born in Scotland, and many other Scottish-Canadians have been PM of Canada since then.
canada and new zealand were both prime destinations for scots and ulster scots , their influence shaped the charechter of both countries to this day , both are quite presbyterian in charechter , unexciting but steady
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Old 04-24-2014, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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And a large amount of them are there illegally.
I am not sure that that's really the case that much in Miami.

Illegal immigration is much more of a phenomenon in the states to the west that border Mexico directly (Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California).
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Old 04-24-2014, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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Well obviously with one million brits its very easy.
The majority of Brits in Australia came over on the 10 pound Pom scheme that ran from the 1950's to the 1970's . Your average British immigrant in Australia is now over 60 years old.

Such a scheme no longer exists.

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Old 04-24-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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Australia isn't richer than Britain.

We are growing fastest in Europe and faster than America this year.
And Australia actually has a massive debt.
australia is very definatley richer per capita than the uk and will continue to be , australia has an incredibly prosperous future ahead of it , without the city of london , the uk would not be all that wealthy
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Old 04-24-2014, 01:49 PM
 
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Canada has never been particularily "close" to Britain either culturally or socially, not even close to the level of Australia or New Zealand.

Canada has always had a more independent streak hence having the first country separate from British rule, it's own flag, largest denomination is Catholic not Protestant, large French presence, and more Nordic in it's values.

Remember that Canada was first discovered and settle by Europeans by the French and the English came much later.

Canada has always had a more stand offish attitude towards Britain and the British people and Americans feel far and away more affiliation and affection for Britain than Canadians {English or French} ever will.


the majority of canadians may be catholic but the country is protestant in charechter ( nothing wrong with that btw )

i agree that canada has always been much less alligned with england than australia and especially new zealand , the main reason for this of course is that canada sits next door to the most influential nation on earth
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Old 04-24-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Canadians certainly have an affection for the British and vice versa. I certainly wasn't implying that there was any animosity between the two countries. Both respect each other and consider each other good friends. I guess that it explains it...........Britain and Canada view each other as good FRIENDS while the British view Australia and NZ as part of the FAMILY .

Canadians have always viewed themselves as being more European {which includes Britain} than Australia or NZ. Americans, on the other hand, have always felt close to the British but a noticeable antipathy towards anything from the Continent.
I largely agree but would say that this is a very contemporary view and caution about the use of the word "always".

English-speaking Canada was never a lock, stock and barrel transplant of the UK into another part of the world like Australia and NZ were (in the early days most English-speaking Canadians were people who first setlted in the U.S.), but certainly it was much more British than it is today in culture, mindset and feel.

Canada started out as a more Americanized and less British society than Australia and NZ ever were, but certainly it was at one point in time a lot closer to the UK and the Commonwealth in many ways than it is today.
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Old 04-24-2014, 01:56 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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canada and new zealand were both prime destinations for scots and ulster scots , their influence shaped the charechter of both countries to this day , both are quite presbyterian in charechter , unexciting but steady
Oh for god sake.

Canada is nothing like Presbyterians trust me!!
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Old 04-24-2014, 01:58 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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The majority of Brits in Australia came over on the 10 pound Pom scheme that ran from the 1950's to the 1970's . Your average average British immigrant in Australia is now over 60 years old.

Such a scheme no longer exists.
Oh that is fascinating!
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Old 04-24-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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the majority of canadians may be catholic but the country is protestant in charechter ( nothing wrong with that btw )

i agree that canada has always been much less alligned with england than australia and especially new zealand , the main reason for this of course is that canada sits next door to the most influential nation on earth
But so does Mexico and the UK is more like the USA than Mexico.
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