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Old 05-22-2014, 07:58 PM
 
Location: In transition
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I just read this article on a local news site. It sounds like there would be tremendous engineering, political and financial challenges with a project like this but if anyone could pull it off it would be the Chinese. I'd love to see this completed in my lifetime. What are your thoughts?
Http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2014/05/c...ing-vancouver/
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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I just read this article on a local news site. It sounds like there would be tremendous engineering, political and financial challenges with a project like this but if anyone could pull it off it would be the Chinese. I'd love to see this completed in my lifetime. What are your thoughts?
Http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2014/05/c...ing-vancouver/
0 possibility of that actually happening. It'd be too slow and too expensive.

Who would actually take a train when you could pay less and arrive faster in an airplane?
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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It should be called "Murderous Orient Express:Fastest way to hell" if they eventually build it out.
Really who the hell would want to sit on a train built by Chinese that goes deep into the sea if you're not in death row?
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:45 PM
 
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0 possibility of that actually happening. It'd be too slow and too expensive.

Who would actually take a train when you could pay less and arrive faster in an airplane?
One could say the same about taking the train from London to Beijing which is possible. It's much faster and cheaper to fly in a plane.
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:57 PM
 
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Who would actually take a train when you could pay less and arrive faster in an airplane?
It has been 4 years since they announced that they wanted to build a Beijing to London High Speed Rail. So it was about time they announced a Beijing to Vancouver route.

Such a train would derive it's primary revenue from freight. Passengers would be a sideline. China benefits because it will be able to transport materials cheaply into manufacturing centers by getting a fast, efficient, low carbon transportation system. Freight that is often sent by airplane today, but doesn't actually have to transit the 8500 air kilometers in 10 hours, but is too important to sent by ship.

For the 13,000 km trip, they will try and achieve 350 km/hr or 37 hours. A single businessman is very unlikely to stretch a 10 hour trip into a 37 hour one, but larger groups consisting of tourists and children would be happy to take a 50% cut in fare in exchange for a two day trip.


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The fastest train service measured by average trip speed from 2009 until 2011 was on the Wuhan-Guangzhou High-Speed Railway, where from December 2009 until July 1, 2011, the CRH3/CRH2 coupled-train sets averaged 312.5 km/h on the 922 km route from Wuhan to Guangzhou North.

However, on July 1, 2011 in order to save energy and reduce operating costs, the maximum speed of Chinese high-speed trains was reduced to 300 km/h, and the average speed of the fastest trains on the Wuhan-Guangzhou High-Speed Railway was reduced to 272.68 km/h.
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:29 PM
 
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This project does not make any financial sense. Ocean freight is pretty cheap and the Tianjin to Vancouver route is pretty direct. Air travel is not that busy between Beijing and Vancouver with only like 2 flights a day. The Wenzhou train collision made me wary of HSR safety in China, and this did not even go underwater or across continents. This route also follows the northern arc of the Pacific Ring of Fire, perhaps passing by near the epicenters of the Tangshan and Sendai earthquakes. They can't even find or take a photo of MH370 now, they're proposing to build a tunnel under the ocean that is just as deep and in a very seismically unstable area? Sorry, after watching the Chinese boat dragging a small device listening to the pings from MH370, I don't have the confidence that they actually already fully surveyed the thousands of km of ocean floor necessary for this route.
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Old 05-23-2014, 03:57 AM
 
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Will not happen.
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Old 05-23-2014, 04:49 AM
 
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Like, the Americans are going to stand there quietly and watch while China is building a railroad through a thousand miles of US territory?
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Old 05-23-2014, 05:19 AM
 
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Like, the Americans are going to stand there quietly and watch while China is building a railroad through a thousand miles of US territory?
The American Transcontinental Railroad was built by Chinese workers although this would be a bit different!
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Old 05-23-2014, 05:47 AM
 
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Shouldn't they at least have Russia,Canada and US's agreements before building this murderous orient express?I can't imagine any of them agreeing on this project.Not even Russia.
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