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View Poll Results: Which cities do you prefer & seem more interesting?
Canadian cities 54 48.21%
Nordic cities 58 51.79%
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I am curious about transport in the suburban areas of the Nordic cities that we've seen, though I have a pretty good idea. I haven't seen any bus stops or shelters along the streets we have seen and obviously these areas aren't generally dense enough to have metro stations.

I suppose most of them probably have a bus stop somewhere along a main road a short distance away that you can walk to from most of the houses. But that for everyday stuff almost everybody drives, unless they are going to work in the city core where parking is difficult and expensive, in which case they may take the bus, or maybe take the car to a train or metro station where they then park and then ride into the city.
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Old 08-30-2014, 02:16 AM
 
Location: Norway
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I am curious about transport in the suburban areas of the Nordic cities that we've seen, though I have a pretty good idea. I haven't seen any bus stops or shelters along the streets we have seen and obviously these areas aren't generally dense enough to have metro stations.

I suppose most of them probably have a bus stop somewhere along a main road a short distance away that you can walk to from most of the houses. But that for everyday stuff almost everybody drives, unless they are going to work in the city core where parking is difficult and expensive, in which case they may take the bus, or maybe take the car to a train or metro station where they then park and then ride into the city.
Infact there is a bus stop almost dead centre in the picture of the link you gave me only one post ago. That tiny blue sign with two sheets of bus routes hanging further down on the pole. For some reason there was no shelter at that particular bus stop. Easy to overlook, I see. After looking at the map, I see there is a metro station about a mile from that neighbourhood.
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Old 08-30-2014, 04:25 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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I am curious about transport in the suburban areas of the Nordic cities that we've seen, though I have a pretty good idea. I haven't seen any bus stops or shelters along the streets we have seen and obviously these areas aren't generally dense enough to have metro stations.

I suppose most of them probably have a bus stop somewhere along a main road a short distance away that you can walk to from most of the houses. But that for everyday stuff almost everybody drives, unless they are going to work in the city core where parking is difficult and expensive, in which case they may take the bus, or maybe take the car to a train or metro station where they then park and then ride into the city.
Our metro covers most the suburbs too:
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Old 08-30-2014, 07:30 AM
 
Location: The land where God created :)
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Montreal metro (will expand few more stops in few years):
Montreal is the 3rd busiest metro in North America...



Toronto:

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Old 08-30-2014, 07:32 AM
 
Location: The land where God created :)
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Our metro covers most the suburbs too:
But Stockholm is the only city in Sweden with a metro/subway....
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Old 08-30-2014, 07:46 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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But Stockholm is the only city in Sweden with a metro/subway....
Only Stockholm has an urban area greater than 1 million. The second biggest is barely over half a million, might not be worth to have a subway. Gothenburg, the second biggest, has a tram system. Some lines further out run grade separated, so the speeds may be decent:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...019078290e7c40

Similar to North American light rail. I was surprised Copenhagen only recently added a subway, I supposed the S-Train was sufficient for travel more than a few miles and short city trips could be taken by bus?
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Old 08-30-2014, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Stockholm metro is at the stages of expanding as well. It is just taking forever to do so lol!

I have lived in Gothenburg and the tram system is very extensive. It works well with the bus system in the city.

Out of all the Canadian cities I have been to I think they have very decent transit system. The ones in Montreal is probably my favourite and reminds me of the one in Stockholm the most. I really like Vancouver and Toronto's as well.

Though to be honest, I don't venture too far out into the suburbs when I visit. Not that I do often here. When we visit someone or go to the country house, we take the car.
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Old 08-30-2014, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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But Stockholm is the only city in Sweden with a metro/subway....
But for a city of it's size, the metro system is very large.

And so what, the other cities are nowhere near as big as Stockholm, they don't really need one anyways. Gothenburg has a huge tram network, with 131 stations and handles 104 million passengers annually. That's more stations than Stockholm's metro and all of Canada's subways. For a city with just under 600,000 residents, the tram system is more than enough.

Stockholm Metro:
Stations: 100
Annual Passengers: 328,000,000

Gothenburg Tram:
Stations: 131
Annual Passengers: 104,000,000
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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I know some people in Ottawa who didn't believe that there was a light rail system in the city. To be fair it doesn't really touch the centre at all, and I guess it is more or less serving the purpose of commuter rail, but I still find that pretty funny.

Edmonton and Calgary also have light rail, but I believe ridership is very low. Honestly, the only passable urban train in all of Canada is Montreal's Metro. Toronto's has such an awkward design, and Vancouver's skytrain is nice and quite modern, but I find it is not so extensive in coverage.
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:37 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Edmonton and Calgary also have light rail, but I believe ridership is very low. Honestly, the only passable urban train in all of Canada is Montreal's Metro. Toronto's has such an awkward design, and Vancouver's skytrain is nice and quite modern, but I find it is not so extensive in coverage.
Calgary has the highest ridership light rail in North America. 300,000 weekday passengers for a city of just over 1 million isn't low. Annual ridership is just under Gothenberg. Lower per capita, but Calgary is much less dense. Vancouver's network has more mileage than Montreal, but Montreal's metro covers more consistently urban areas so it may feel more useful (and gets much higher ridership).
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