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He was an idiot to runaway. Instead of standing his ground and trying to make a case he ran off. Now he is stuck in Russia and not able to leave if he wants to because of that.
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Originally Posted by nei
unlike Daniel Ellsberg he would have been more likely to have been punished.
If he believed in what he was doing so much that shouldn't have mattered. Daniel Ellsberg was willing to go to prison if need be over the pentagon papers. It's called standing up for what you believe in. Snowden ran away like a coward and that is why people have a low view of him.
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Originally Posted by nei
Avoiding punishment isn't cowardice, it's not being stupid.
Actually that is the very definition of being a coward. He didn't want to potentially face the consequences of his actions so he ran away to avoid possible consequences which makes him a coward.
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The government botched Daniel Ellsburg's prosecution, and the current political culture is more anti-leaker.
Again if Snowden believe that what he was doing was so just he would've stayed made his case to the public instead of fleeing. Daniel Ellsburg did that Snowden did not.
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Calling his actions treason is absurd.
He leaked a bunch of classified documents without the authority to do so which is treason. He could've tried and played the whistle blower card but since he ran off in fear of going to prison he lost that option.
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I for one appreciate knowing what my government is doing.
So your telling me you didn't know about the patriot act and it's increased surveillance powers that have been in place a decade when Snowden pulled his stunt? As far as wiring tapping other countries go again I got to ask why you would be surprised by any of this.
The same American public who criticizes the government and wants government to stay out of their lives, turns against the person who exposed that same government was invading our privacy, government getting into our lives in the most personal way. This same public now backs that same government and turns on the whistle blower.
What exactly did he expose? Come on you don't remember anything about the powers of surveillance being expanded during the war on terror and how it's been that way since right after 9/11? It's been that way for years and now this guy leaks some info about expanding survalience and all of a sudden it's "shocking"? Give me a break this guy leaked a bunch of documents and then ran away in fear of any type of consequence the guy is a little *****.
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Originally Posted by Gentoo
So, we want our freedom which includes government taking a minimal role, except when it comes to wire-tapping because that protects our freedom. What?!?!?
He was an idiot to runaway. Instead of standing his ground and trying to make a case he ran off. Now he is stuck in Russia and not able to leave if he wants to because of that.
You're being unrealistic there. Why dealing with the consequences if he could find a way not to? That'd be stupid, which he isn't.
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Again if Snowden believe that what he was doing was so just he would've stayed made his case to the public instead of fleeing.
Why? I don't see the connection.
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He leaked a bunch of classified documents without the authority to do so which is treason. He could've tried and played the whistle blower card but since he ran off in fear of going to prison he lost that option.
No, it's whistleblowing. Treason involves helping an enemy not informing the public.
[quote[So your telling me you didn't know about the patriot act and it's increased surveillance powers that have been in place a decade when Snowden pulled his stunt? As far as wiring tapping other countries go again I got to ask why you would be surprised by any of this.[/quote]
No, not the details nor the extent.
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