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Old 10-30-2016, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Malaysia is not developed. It's corrupt af

poorer than the poorest EU member states.

Besides the distribution of wealth is horrible, with its Chinese minorities holding the majority of it.

The crime rate is extremely high as well. KL looks decent, but that's about it.
True.

GDP (PPP) per capita is higher than Romania and Bulgaria.

Agreed.

It might be high but i wouldn't call it extremely high, you make it sound like Honduras/Venezuela.
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Old 10-30-2016, 07:32 PM
 
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If you define tropical as between the tropic of Cancer and Capricorn, then Singapore, Brunei, Taiwan, United Arab Emirates, Sint Maarten, Saudi Arabia, St. Kitts and Nevis, Antigua and Barbuda, Mauritius, and Panama are all have an HDI of high.
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Old 10-30-2016, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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If you define tropical as between the tropic of Cancer and Capricorn, then Singapore, Brunei, Taiwan, United Arab Emirates, Sint Maarten, Saudi Arabia, St. Kitts and Nevis, Antigua and Barbuda, Mauritius, and Panama are all have an HDI of high.
Countries with modern slavery and accepted discrimination of non-heterosexuals are not developed.

Saudi Arabia? i can't even...
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Old 10-30-2016, 08:02 PM
 
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Countries with modern slavery and accepted discrimination of non-heterosexuals are not developed.

Saudi Arabia? i can't even...
I said all these countries have an HDI of high, if you do not accept that definition of developed then you need to provide your definition of "developed". One can add many of their own expectations of what developed means to them (is a country where kids frequently get shot in school developed? How about one that prohibits abortion? Does it require a free press? etc. This could eliminate many "developed" nations)
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Old 10-30-2016, 08:03 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Taiwan is Sub-Tropical.
I didn't know if we were counting sub-tropical or not, but part of Taiwan is within the tropics. Most people categorize it as tropical.

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Old 10-30-2016, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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is a country where kids frequently get shot in school developed?

How about one that prohibits abortion?

Does it require a free press?
If its not done by a organization it can be.

If it completely prohibits abortion even in cases such as rape its not a developed country.

Yes.
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Old 10-30-2016, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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If you define tropical as between the tropic of Cancer and Capricorn, then Singapore, Brunei, Taiwan, United Arab Emirates, Sint Maarten, Saudi Arabia, St. Kitts and Nevis, Antigua and Barbuda, Mauritius, and Panama are all have an HDI of high.
Honestly I'd only consider those of very high HDI developed. Actually even that is pretty far-fetched. I'd say only those with a higher HDI than Italy are developed, that means out of these only Singapore and Taiwan are.
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Old 10-30-2016, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Green Country
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Probably Panama in 10-15 years.
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Old 10-30-2016, 09:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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The colonial systems were created and implemented to exploit, take advantage of the local populations, dehumanize them, and to leech as much as possible. At the same time, colonial powers were creating an exclusive global economy that they controlled, excluding ex-colonies and saddling them with debt when many were trying to become independent.

Nowadays those same systems are used, but to benefit the local populations who are descendants of the colonizers. They haven't changed because the nepotism and corruption are embedded within the highly bureaucratic national laws, which are to their benefit. They are still also trying to fit into the global economy.

I believe that unless those laws are changed and unless the local ex-colony culture changes, nothing in these countries will change, unfortunately. Change is very slow, and takes ALOT of time to trickle up.
^^^This
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Old 10-30-2016, 11:24 PM
 
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Countries with modern slavery and accepted discrimination of non-heterosexuals are not developed.

Saudi Arabia? i can't even...
I love it when the so called West urges gay rights in undeveloped nations, and threatens to withhold aid to them due to the violations of gay rights, but are silent in the matter of the matter of gay rights in muslim countries with no talk of sanctions, even though Saudi Arabia brings the death penality to homosexuals.. Of course the West is happy to by oil from Saudi Arabia and sell very expensive military hardware to that country. Infact Saudi Arabia is one of the Western world best customers for military goods.

How about Indonesia? It is even poorer than Malaysia, and there are some areas that have strict interpretation of Islamic law, but the West is silent on that matter. No talk of boycotts, etc.

With Malaysia, Malaysians have extra money to spend after tax compared to Bulgaria which is an EU member. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...ntry2=Bulgaria
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