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Old 12-13-2017, 10:59 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Hello... My family and I are exploring the possibility of moving out of California. I am a nurse and my husband has a Bachelors in Business Administration with 23 years experience on Pharmacy Management. We have narrowed down to the three following countries: Canada, Ireland and UK. Canada is appealing for the proximity to the US and the possibility of "driving" to see family and friends. UK and Ireland are appealing for giving us the change to experience a completely different culture and the chance to travel all over Europe. Pursuing all three at the same time is exhausting and pointless so we are trying to narrow down even more to hopefully just 1 choice. If you could offer us any PROS and CONS of these choices based on: Immigration rules (and how difficult it is), safety and Work/Life balance (quality of life), I'd really appreciate!

TIA~
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Old 12-14-2017, 03:10 AM
 
Location: Airstrip 1, Oceania
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Don't know about Ireland or Canada but for the UK you have to have a definite job offer by an employer who is able and willing to sponsor you for a work visa as you must have this in hand before you move over. Only one of you needs a work visa. Your spouse and children will each need a dependent's visa. Have a look here for possible jobs:
https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/
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Old 12-14-2017, 04:31 AM
 
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uk

one reason alone is the weak pound strengthens anyone who is using another currency

ireland is more dublin focused than london is in the uk , housing shortage here is chronic

weather in the uk is a good bit better than in ireland

wages in the uk are probably better overall when you factor in the cost of living , the uk is very cheap for groceries for example
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:02 AM
 
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Canada.


For very specific reasons.


Peaceful. Polite. Safe. Clean. Friendly. A stable Federal Government, with a progressive agenda.


Welcoming to immigrants. One of the most educated populations in the world ( just over 50 percent of Canadian adults hold at least one University degree ). One of the most successful economies in the G8.




We use a points system to score potential immigrants, which rejects low scores, and encourages the most qualified and most likely to succeed to come here. The result.....in the first 8 years after landing in Canada, about 80 percent of immigrants have applied for and been granted Canadian Citizenship.


The UK. Massive racial and social unrest. Terror attacks. Economy. Unemployment. The "benefits lifestyle ". Those that can emigrate are doing so. One of the most overcrowded places in the world, measured by people per square mile of the entire country. In 2016, the population density of the UK was 395 people per square kilometre . By comparison in Canada that figure is 3 persons per square kilometre.




Ireland. Unemployment, menial jobs taken by EU workers. Economy. Housing shortages.


XXX.
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:23 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Canada.


For very specific reasons.


Peaceful. Polite. Safe. Clean. Friendly. A stable Federal Government, with a progressive agenda.


Welcoming to immigrants. One of the most educated populations in the world ( just over 50 percent of Canadian adults hold at least one University degree ). One of the most successful economies in the G8.




We use a points system to score potential immigrants, which rejects low scores, and encourages the most qualified and most likely to succeed to come here. The result.....in the first 8 years after landing in Canada, about 80 percent of immigrants have applied for and been granted Canadian Citizenship.


The UK. Massive racial and social unrest. Terror attacks. Economy. Unemployment. The "benefits lifestyle ". Those that can emigrate are doing so. One of the most overcrowded places in the world, measured by people per square mile of the entire country. In 2016, the population density of the UK was 395 people per square kilometre . By comparison in Canada that figure is 3 persons per square kilometre.




Ireland. Unemployment, menial jobs taken by EU workers. Economy. Housing shortages.


XXX.

The UK may or may not be somebodies choice for re-location but I have to say there is not 'massive' racial and social unrest in the UK, in fact the UK is one of the most racially harmonious places in the world, terror attacks? Any worse than France, Germany, the US? Economy and unemployment? Really?
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Old 12-14-2017, 11:26 AM
 
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East Home.


Have you forgotten so soon ?


https://blog.oup.com/2015/03/social-...-london-riots/


Do any of these groups sound familiar ?


British National Party. English Defence League. UK Independence Party. Britain First. National Action. National Front. All good lads, just out for a lark, right ?


Or the other side of the street. Link. Isis calls on supporters to wage 'all-out war' on West during Ramadan with new terror attacks | The Independent


Or this.ISIS fans celebrate Manchester attack on Twitter | Daily Mail Online


Or this one about the number of illegal workers in the UK. Hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants drop off radar in the UK every year according to secret figures




Yeah, everything is beer and skittles, right ?




XXXX.
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Old 12-14-2017, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Ease up now, mapleguy.


Don't make us look bad.
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA/London, UK
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Ease up now, mapleguy.


Don't make us look bad.
Too late.
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Old 12-14-2017, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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too late.
lol
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Old 12-14-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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Of the 3 you mentioned, Canada is the easiest one for you, probably easier and more straightforward to immigrate, similar to the US (similar lifestyle, markets, workplace, products), geographical proximity.

UK and Ireland would be definitely more challenging.

So now pro and cons of Canada compared to the US.

PRO

- Government run healthcare no matter what your income is.

- More government mandated benefits (vacation time, maternity leave) but California may already have these, I do not know

- Statistically less crime (but as you know, except of some really bad areas, on average the US is as safe as Canada)

CONS

- Weather, no place in Canada is comparable to Southern California, you will miss that warm sunshine

- Lower wages and less opportunities in many fields

- Higher cost of living


P.S.

I just read that you are located in San Diego....trading San Diego for Canada would be crazy
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