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View Poll Results: What country in the world has the most FREEDOM?
USA 31 31.63%
Canada 16 16.33%
Mexico 2 2.04%
Australia 6 6.12%
Czech Republic 0 0%
Netherlands 6 6.12%
Hungary 2 2.04%
Romania 0 0%
Denmark 2 2.04%
Finland 4 4.08%
Norway 6 6.12%
Sweden 2 2.04%
United Kingdom 1 1.02%
Greece 1 1.02%
Italy 1 1.02%
Spain 0 0%
Turkey 0 0%
Germany 0 0%
Switzerland 4 4.08%
Colombia 2 2.04%
Philippines 0 0%
Japan 2 2.04%
Thailand 0 0%
Brazil 0 0%
Other 10 10.20%
Voters: 98. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-23-2019, 08:22 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Money = Freedom

Guess where the Money is?
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:02 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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You keep trying and you keep coming up short on relevant facts there sunshine.

Meanwhile:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...at-trial.shtml

https://dailycaller.com/2013/07/02/s...o-game-threat/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...zed-pools.html

We could also use another measuring stick to judge the freedom of expression:
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou...-freedom-index

And over all:

https://www.businessinsider.com/coun...e-world-2018-4

https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

Notice a trend related to measurement of ALL freedoms Hiruko? It's why no one whose actually informed by other than American "numero uno" nonsense voted for the U.S. It's because on all scores of measurement by independent org's show the U.S. not even being in the top ten of ANY of them....

There; I bit. Happy now?
Americans have this shoved down our throats from the cradle. Free, freedom, free, freedom. Most have no idea that's it's indoctrination.
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Money = Freedom

Guess where the Money is?
Qatar?
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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Qatar?
And the rest of the Arab Emirates, also Saudi Arabia.

Or the country where millionaires from all over the world keep their money, Switzerland.
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Old 02-23-2019, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Well; it's a relatively simple concept based upon what the majority would define actual freedom as.

Free to pursue your happiness and prosperity? Free to make choices of comfort, safety and health?

Or another perspective; freedom defined by all of the amenities afforded by a modern first world country versus those lack of amenities affording you less freedoms other than those of merely walking and breathing.

Your concept of freedom has those starving in the streets characterized as free because there is no intervention whatsoever by any entity other than nature's laws into their pitiful lives.

I would not choose to characterize that as freedom but rather "subjugation" to circumstances beyond ones control.
That's it? One of the longest links in the history of this forum, says only that? You got from it that a failed state is one without "amenities afforded by a modern first world country"?
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Old 02-23-2019, 07:58 PM
 
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That's it? One of the longest links in the history of this forum, says only that? You got from it that a failed state is one without "amenities afforded by a modern first world country"?
It's not incumbent upon me to both drag you to the oasis and also force you to drink.
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Old 02-23-2019, 08:09 PM
 
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Canada leading this poll is laughable with all of the restrictions on freedom of expression (the most important freedom next to the right to own property). I would say the United States and Switzerland by far.
OK; //www.city-data.com/forum/polit...n-because.html


Freedom of speech is not dependent upon a particular language in Canada.

What else ya got?
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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It's not incumbent upon me to both drag you to the oasis and also force you to drink.
It's incumbent on you to present an articulate and persuasive argument, ans support it if you wish with links. And respond to posters who challenge your arguments, your links, or your interpretations of them..
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Old 02-24-2019, 06:25 AM
 
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It's incumbent on you to present an articulate and persuasive argument, ans support it if you wish with links. And respond to posters who challenge your arguments, your links, or your interpretations of them..
I did that and you didn't like the answers...…….. Next?
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Old 02-24-2019, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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I did that and you didn't like the answers...…….. Next?
You call this an "articulate and persuasive argument?

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Furthermore, your long long long long link contains the word "freedom" only four times, all four modified as "political freedom", without making even a tangential reference to personal freedom, which is the topic of this thread, as specified clearly in the introduction by the OP.

Mind if I quote you?

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Don't waste your bandwidth on that one. Posts nonsense and skates. Never addresses a factual rebuttal but just comes back with more nonsense.
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Last edited by cebuan; 02-24-2019 at 06:32 PM..
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