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Does anyone else see another Gulf War-type conflict unfolding? Iran's enabling of terror groups like Hamas and the Houtis has destabilized the region as they continue to basically thumb their nose at the US and it's allies. Anyone else foresee a US-UK-Israel led coalition including neighbor allies like Jordan and Qatar going after Iran in the coming months, if not sooner?
Why would Jordan and Qatar join? Just look at the help the U.S. is getting in its efforts against the Houthis. The situation is nothing like the Gulf War crisis. Just about everyone hated Saddam. That is not the case with Iran. As their proxies show, they have a lot of support in the region. The public rep might be bad in the West, but in the ME they are seen by many as the only country willing to take a stand against the West. Besides A war against Iran would terrible for the region. Iran is twice the size of Iraq, has unfavorable terrain, has a stronger army then what Iraq had, and most importantly has the ability to project force meaning they can shoot back at you. Not to mention their backed groups would join the fight.
Technically wouldn't it be 3.0? Unless the long one during most of the 2000's was a continuation of the one from the early 1990's rather than two separate ones.
Does anyone else see another Gulf War-type conflict unfolding? Iran's enabling of terror groups like Hamas and the Houtis has destabilized the region as they continue to basically thumb their nose at the US and it's allies. Anyone else foresee a US-UK-Israel led coalition including neighbor allies like Jordan and Qatar going after Iran in the coming months, if not sooner?
No, not a conventional war, as the prior 2 Gulf Wars were (making this indeed Gulf War 3.0). For one thing the Arab states, even those that have recognized Israel, would never fight side by side in a coalition with Israel. 100% absolutely impossible. You saw Arab states participate in a coalition with the US in the first Gulf War against Iraq, the was only on the condition that Israel was not involved.
Nor would the US agree to a coalition with Israel for political reasons as it would seem as we are fighting there war.
Nor does the US want to start a war with a potentially nuclear armed Iran in the first place.
Nor does Israel want a conventional war with Iran, partly because of the above reason, partly because they are already engaged in a war with Hamas in Gaza.
What you will probably see is more of the same. Independent air strikes and raids by Israel, and separately by US and UK, against Iranian proxies. What you will hopefully see going forward is the US transferring this to what it was before Biden - Iranian proxies vs. Saudi Arabia proxies. The old Shia vs. Sunni battles. Israel can handle itself (without the terrorist friendly UN interfering).
Minus any direct conflict with the country providing weaponry/support to the terror organizations and by continuing "surgical strikes" against terror camps the same M.O. as current methodology, any kind of resolution is off the table given the success rate thus far.
My point being somewhere along the line the continuation of kicking the same can down the road is going to be seen as pretty much worthless.
My point being somewhere along the line the continuation of kicking the same can down the road is going to be seen as pretty much worthless.
Probably, but sometimes status quo/containment is the only option. We've been doing that in Korea for 70 years.
Israel, after decades of it's "mowing the grass" strategy of air strikes and raids from time to time, is trying to change the status quo in Gaza at least by erasing Hamas from the earth, that's one small step in the right direction. Next is Hezbollah.
Probably, but sometimes status quo/containment is the only option. We've been doing that in Korea for 70 years.
Israel, after decades of it's "mowing the grass" strategy of air strikes and raids from time to time, is trying to change the status quo in Gaza at least by erasing Hamas from the earth, that's one small step in the right direction. Next is Hezbollah.
Except most experts agree that it will be impossible to eradicate these groups. Obviously they can be 'damaged' but even if it was possible, other groups in time would fill the vacuum.
I recall a time when it was The PLO , that was the main force against Israel. I think regardless of whether it is one of the present groups, or another it hardly matters. Unless a long term agreement can be reached , meaning give and take on all sides, the violence will continue. I don't expect any early solution to the problem. (if ever) It may well take a generation to arrive at the beginnings of any remotely satisfactory resolution. If at all.
Except most experts agree that it will be impossible to eradicate these groups. Obviously they can be 'damaged' but even if it was possible, other groups in time would fill the vacuum.
I recall a time when it was The PLO , that was the main force against Israel. I think regardless of whether it is one of the present groups, or another it hardly matters. Unless a long term agreement can be reached , meaning give and take on all sides, the violence will continue. I don't expect any early solution to the problem. (if ever) It may well take a generation to arrive at the beginnings of any remotely satisfactory resolution. If at all.
You are basically making the "continue the same can down the road..." argument, so you need to respond to the OP not me. But how did Obama's "apology tour" in the mideast, Biden resuming financial support to Palestine, or Biden trying to ease tensions with Iran at the beginning of his presidency work? Anti-semitism is at an all time high, how is that working? Do you think these groups are saying "oh, stupid college kids in the US love us now...now we can relax and live in peace."
PLO still exists, they are the PA now. Ironically, the group that massacred athletes at the olymipcs in 1972, and bombed busloads of Israeli school children the early 2000's, is now seen as the moderate group in Palestine. But there secular/nationalistic view has given into religious extremists groups. No they don't go away but they can be contained. You do that not by singing kumbaya with them, but by killing them dead. Other groups pop up, you kill them as well. Not a perfect solution, but it's the only one we have unless you are proposing a war with Iran. You can do your kumbaya sh*t as well, the average Palestinian doesn't give a crap about a "2 state solution", historical grievances, "long term agreements"...your kumbaya sh*t devised by some "expert" working at Harvard. Most of them just want a better way of life - yeah, I'm all for that, but you still have to eliminate all these extremists groups.
Hamas is unique however. This is not only a group, but a quasi-state government with all the administration, military force, and logistics dedicated to the elimination of Israel. Oh yeah, they can be eradicated.
It's becoming increasingly evident I suppose and perhaps inevitable that the US adopts Swiss-like neutrality and withdraws to our borders/territories and allow these varying regions to handle it themselves. The role of world police and major contributor has not served us well in recent years as many countries continue to figuratively spit in our face with their hand out for foreign aid. As a major faction of the US population continues to struggle one can only assume varying internal forces will push our foreign policy in that direction.
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