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Old 01-17-2011, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I think the OP is looking for a verb.

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Still not what I'm looking for.

'This sucks' does not equal 'this disagreeable.' It'd have to be this IS disagreeable. Then 'this is sucks' wouldn't make sense. See what I mean?

Anyone else?
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Old 01-17-2011, 04:09 PM
 
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Well...hmmm...[yikes]...this is the problem. "Sucks" is transitive, implying a direct object...and you know what that object is. I'm old enough to remember when this wasn't a common phrase; and even now that it is, I still bridle at young kids using it. And I'm not talking about sucking eggs, which is just a mollification of the curse anyway.

So there are no synonymous verbs that make the same insulting implication about a person (or loosely some thing) sucking that other thing. "This fellates" would be the only equivalent.
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Old 01-17-2011, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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English has the widest and most expressive vocabulary of any language. However, I still find there are some gaps in it. For example, there's no direct translation of Spanish "ganas", as in "no tengo ganas de nada".
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Old 01-17-2011, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It proved to be wrong.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:22 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I respectfully disagree with your statement that there are "no proper English words" which can adequately convey the derision and abject contempt that may be held for the situation, something, or actions of another person.

Some adjectives that come to mind readily include:

abominable,
atrocious,
base,
corrupt,
criminal,
delinquent,
dreadful,
evil,
fallacious,
garbage,
Godawful,
grody,
inferior,
iniquitous,
moldy,
putrid,
rancid,
reprobate,
rotten,
sinful,
slipshod,
sour,
stinking,
substandard,
vicious,
vile,
villainous, and
wicked.

For what it is worth, I try to keep in mind the etymology of the word "sucks" as a caution to help me refrain from using the word among my more genial friends.
As stumbler pointed out none of which are verbs.

None of which would make sense in the following sentence, 'this _____!'
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Old 01-18-2011, 03:32 AM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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English has the widest and most expressive vocabulary of any language. However, I still find there are some gaps in it. For example, there's no direct translation of Spanish "ganas", as in "no tengo ganas de nada".
There is in the negative though:

No tengo ganas de ir al cine=
I have no wish/inclination to go to the cinema

I'm sure I must have come across hundreds of foreign words with no English equivalent in my time, but the only gap I can think of right now is a word meaning opposite of 'role model'. Also 'Gemuetlichkeit' in German, which is a mixture of happiness, coziness, contentedness etc. I love crazy long German words like 'Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungen', (velocitynesslimitings = speed limit) and 'Donaudampfschiffaehrtskapitaensjackenknopfloch', meaning 'button hole on the jacket of a captain of a steamship on the River Danube'.
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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Also there's no real equivalent to 'Bon appetit' in English. 'Enjoy your meal' means the same thing I suppose but I've never heard anybody other than a waiter say it, whereas other languages say their phrase in a wider context, regardless of whether what you're eating is a meal or just a snack.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Fairfax
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This sucks covers so many situations that I don't think there are any proper verbs that are its equivalent.
"This frustrates/disappoints/annoys" jumped to my mind first but they all relate to our emotions...whereas this sucks is pretty objective.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Splitting time between Dayton, NJ and Needmore, PA
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As stumbler pointed out none of which are verbs.

None of which would make sense in the following sentence, 'this _____!'
Actually, then, you are taking the original part of speech for "sucks," which is an action word, and attempting to shoe-horn it into a sentence as a descriptor. Hence, you have the reason it is slang and not proper English. Therefore, you will be forever in search of a verb to act as an adjective.

The words I listed above are descriptors, or adjectives, and they require a verb in the form of the word "is" to impart their definition on the subject or noun. This leads to proper English form.

By searching for a verb to misappropriate as an adjective, you have shunned an entire lexicon of words that are present to express the emotions and sense of a situation, entity, or the actions of another person.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:38 AM
 
Location: In the north country fair
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English has the widest and most expressive vocabulary of any language. However, I still find there are some gaps in it. For example, there's no direct translation of Spanish "ganas", as in "no tengo ganas de nada".
I wouldn't call them "gaps." Different languages reflect a different culture, some times very different from English, sometimes not so different. For example, there is no trnaslation for "buen provecho" or "bon appetit" b/c, for whatever reason, it isn't customary in English-speaking countries. But I don't think that means that there is a "gap" in a language simply b/c there is a concept that cannot be directly translated. If that were true, then all languages could be shown to have those "gaps."
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