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Old 02-12-2008, 10:27 AM
 
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My family and I are in the same decision as you are. We have 2 kids and 1 one of them is going kindergarten as well and I also heard from someone else that Fort Mill is very good in schools for south carolina. We were looking into charlotte and suburbs of that but not sure either. NY
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:39 AM
 
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I must say that I can't stand the bad publicity that CMS schools receive on a daily basis. Everyday I hear of neighbors moving away to Fort Mill because they want to get their kids out of CMS schools. Here are the facts for all of you newcomers and non-believers. The reason why Fort Mill schools have better test scores than CMS is that their standards are LOWER!!!!. Yes, that is right. CMS has once again raised the bar in the curriculum standards that students must reach within each grade level. Also, South Carolina schools as of last year, were rated #50 out of all 50 states in performance. So what does that tell you. If you have easy requirements for students, your test scores are obviously going to be better and show more percentage of students achieving their goals each year. As far as CMS being crowded, Fort Mill is exploding more and more everyday and their schools will be the same soon. In fact, with all of you moving there, CMS will be better off as far as overcrowding here. I am just basically giving the newcomers to our area the facts and coming from NY schools myself, I beleive CMS schools have higher standards. I also personally know teachers from Fort Mill and Rock Hill schools that have transferred to teach in CMS schools and agree that the children in CMS are way ahead of the students at Fort Mill schools in what they are learning. Please understand, I am not in any way knocking Fort Mill schools either as I think they are good schools, but please do not bad mouth CMS anymore. In the end, your students and ours will be side by side in the same colleges and no one will care where they attended public school. No one is more better off than the next. Good luck to all.
Take a hike. If you can't see the difference between the two school districts and how they're handling their growth, then you're clueless.
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Old 04-17-2008, 09:26 AM
 
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Back to the original question. I too am looking to move to the area and after extensive research, visits to schools, contacts with the districts - we are looking at York 2 Clover area. Why? Growth in Fort Mill. If we buy a house in the Gold Hill Elem. district, our son will be bused to another school. They currently have 3 elementary schools with an enrollment freeze, thus making students in that area be bused to another school. This sounds similiar to CMS.
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:39 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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The reason why Fort Mill schools have better test scores than CMS is that their standards are LOWER!!!!...Also, South Carolina schools as of last year, were rated #50 out of all 50 states in performance. So what does that tell you. If you have easy requirements for students, your test scores are obviously going to be better and show more percentage of students achieving their goals each year.
This is patently FALSE, and in fact the opposite is true. SC's standards are much more stringent than those of other states, and NC's are a bit more lax. That's one reason why SC tends to fall to the bottom of these lists--because the bar is set higher (and I should know, I was educated in SC). Because each state selects its own testing system and sets its own passing scores, there is no direct way to compare the proficiency levels established by one state against the others.

Look where both states rank:
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Old 04-18-2008, 05:05 AM
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:00 AM
 
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Everybody calm down, please.
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Ha ha ha...there you are! I was wondering who the Mod was for SC...you don't get a chance to pop in here too often since we're all nice and mellow people here in Y&L, until a troll starts mouthing off false statements!

Nice to meet you, Yac!
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Moon Over Palmettos
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This is patently FALSE, and in fact the opposite is true. SC's standards are much more stringent than those of other states, and NC's are a bit more lax. That's one reason why SC tends to fall to the bottom of these lists--because the bar is set higher (and I should know, I was educated in SC). Because each state selects its own testing system and sets its own passing scores, there is no direct way to compare the proficiency levels established by one state against the others.

Look where both states rank:
Could you please post the link to where you got this? I would be interested in more recent stats. Thanks! Bummer to where CT was on this!
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:41 PM
 
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^Hoover Institution - Education Next - Johnny Can Read...in Some States (http://www.hoover.org/publications/ednext/3219636.html - broken link)
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Old 04-18-2008, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I found this one for 2005

Keeping an eye on state standards: a race to the bottom? Checking for truth in advertising; are proficiency levels meaningful? - Education Next | Encyclopedia.com (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-149158990.html - broken link)

Did anyone found a more recent link?

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Could you please post the link to where you got this? I would be interested in more recent stats. Thanks! Bummer to where CT was on this!
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Old 04-20-2008, 06:56 AM
 
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It is next to impossible to compare schools from one state to another as each state has their own set of standards.

Here is a story they did on CBS last year:

"No Child Left Behind": State Tests Vary, Kelly Wallace: Education Law Has Different Standards For Different States - CBS News

Trying to compare CMS (Charlotte NC) to FMSD (Fort Mill/Tega Cay SC) is like trying to compare David to Goliath. There are bad schools within CMS...and there are some very good schools. It is best to find a school (no matter where it's located) and research the indivdual school (I also recommend taking a tour of the school).

Now in our own personal situation (LBUSD vs. FMSD) my children were both in the excellerated program out in CA (LBUSD)...here in SC (FMSD) my children had to play a bit of catch when we first moved here. While they are now both honor students only one is in the GT program (gifted and talented). Also the grading is a bit different as well (90-to-100 was an A in LBUSD), at FMSD (93-to100 is an A).
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