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Old 05-02-2011, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Over the Rainbow...
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"ASSume" very childish
Meaning of assume - you make an ass out of yourself and me...or have you never heard that?
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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Obama did next to nothing. It was the military people risking their lives who did this, not Obama.

And I find I can't celebrate anyone being killed even if they were a piece of trash like him...
It was the military people risking their lives who did this, not Obama.

Met, I agree with Arctic on the above. Those are the real heroes. None the less bin laden is gone; wish we could get all involved im 911 and do the same.
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:29 PM
 
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Obama did next to nothing. It was the military people risking their lives who did this, not Obama.

And I find I can't celebrate anyone being killed even if they were a piece of trash like him...
Normally I would feel the same; but I can't this time. Wonder how the families of 911 feel.
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:32 PM
 
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Differences aside, well done, I did rep you also
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:40 PM
 
Location: S.Dak
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A friend of mine's 20 year old son is in the Marine Corps Special Ops in Afghanistan. He was instructed to call home and say goodbye a few weeks ago. It sounds like he was part of the operation.
From Soldiers Angels: If you are a family member or "Angel" of someone in Afghanistan, and you are in touch via e-mail/IM/Skype please be prepared for intermittent contact for the immediate future. Internet access is shut down when there are security concerns. There may be an attempt to respond to this development, and our military will take whatever steps are necessary to protect our troops.

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Old 05-02-2011, 12:43 PM
 
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It was the military people risking their lives who did this, not Obama.

Met, I agree with Arctic on the above. Those are the real heroes. None the less bin laden is gone; wish we could get all involved im 911 and do the same.
Barack Obama risked his life the day he announced his candidacy for POTUS, but that's another discussion.
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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Normally I would feel the same; but I can't this time.
That is, I believe, very valid in this case. There is a difference between being vindictive against the low level soldier or even any operative, and the way we should view a billionaire who devotes everything he has to terrorism.

That said, I do have one real difference of opinion with the way we handle terrorism, or any aggression from middle eastern sources. We made an effort with Bin Laden for example, to treat his body with respect as required by Muslim teachings, and I see no purpose in that. It allows them to believe they can martyr themselves and go to heaven. It allows them to see honor in terrorizing us.

I would have ordered his body to fed to pigs, which would then have been slaughtered and buried in a way that would allow the carcass to rot into the ground. (No heaven, no honor, no glory, and damnation to eternal Hell.)

I would also threaten, and if necessary actually do this, to haul bomber loads of pig manure from hog farms in the US, and dump mile wide swaths of residue along borders, highways, known training areas, etc etc. It is far less expensive than a bomb, and far more effective in the military sense too!
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Old 05-02-2011, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Manhattan Island
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That said, I do have one real difference of opinion with the way we handle terrorism, or any aggression from middle eastern sources. We made an effort with Bin Laden for example, to treat his body with respect as required by Muslim teachings, and I see no purpose in that. It allows them to believe they can martyr themselves and go to heaven. It allows them to see honor in terrorizing us.

I would have ordered his body to fed to pigs, which would then have been slaughtered and buried in a way that would allow the carcass to rot into the ground. (No heaven, no honor, no glory, and damnation to eternal Hell.)
Well, this is quite vindictive. I think it shows that our country has enough class to give a man a proper burial, regardless of how much of a pig he was. And it's not even really him that I'm concerned with honoring (or anyone for that matter). The concern for me is, if you feed him to the hogs and all that, well then you've severely dishonored him and, in the view of some, Islam as a whole. And that would not be good. They hate us enough as it is.

Of course there's the other side of the coin that says nothing we do will make them hate us any less, and that may well be the case. But this treatment we gave the body can either A) do absolutely nothing for or against us, or B) send a clear message to the terrorists what kind of morals we really have and potentially achieve a small something diplomatically. Maybe that's fairy-tale thinking, but to me, it seems plausible. I mean, honoring his body in accordance with the teachings of Islam, that's a pretty nice thing to do for a guy who has wreaked havoc on your country.
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Old 05-02-2011, 01:14 PM
 
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That is, I believe, very valid in this case. There is a difference between being vindictive against the low level soldier or even any operative, and the way we should view a billionaire who devotes everything he has to terrorism.

That said, I do have one real difference of opinion with the way we handle terrorism, or any aggression from middle eastern sources. We made an effort with Bin Laden for example, to treat his body with respect as required by Muslim teachings, and I see no purpose in that. It allows them to believe they can martyr themselves and go to heaven. It allows them to see honor in terrorizing us.

I would have ordered his body to fed to pigs, which would then have been slaughtered and buried in a way that would allow the carcass to rot into the ground. (No heaven, no honor, no glory, and damnation to eternal Hell.)

I would also threaten, and if necessary actually do this, to haul bomber loads of pig manure from hog farms in the US, and dump mile wide swaths of residue along borders, highways, known training areas, etc etc. It is far less expensive than a bomb, and far more effective in the military sense too!



I would have ordered his body to fed to pigs, which would then have been slaughtered and buried in a way that would allow the carcass to rot into the ground. (No heaven, no honor, no glory, and damnation to eternal Hell.)

I would also threaten, and if necessary actually do this, to haul bomber loads of pig manure from hog farms in the US, and dump mile wide swaths of residue along borders, highways, known training areas, etc etc. It is far less expensive than a bomb, and far more effective in the military sense too![/QUOTE


I agree with you!!! I wonder why they buried him according to Muslim law?? That's a whole different subject.
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