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Old 04-30-2012, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Homer Ak.
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If you tax and spend like California did/does you get results like California did. If your GDP exceeds your debt like Greece, you will get results like Greece. Im sorry to say this isnt even open for debate. this is reality. It will happen whether your (insert party here) politician tells you it will or not. Currently Cali is in the middle of a 4 year slide in businesses fleeing the state. '11 saw a record 26% increase in businesses leaving..sounds kinda bad till your realize '10 was a record year too..wow even worse '09 when i left was a record year too.. getting the picture?
Tax revenues are not a bottomless pit to draw on.. I suggest you all look up the Laugher curve or just apply common sense.

 
Old 05-01-2012, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, AK
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Originally Posted by Metlakatla View Post
It's getting awfully shrill in here (not you, Jazzy).

I think that businesses who move their operations to other countries should move themselves and their families there as well, into the exact same type of housing that their employees are living in.
This is the best thing I have read all day.
 
Old 05-01-2012, 09:19 AM
 
Location: 112 Ocean Avenue
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Originally Posted by LittleJazzyP View Post
Try this on for size:

Everyone wants services, but nobody wants to pay for them, and to be considered anything other than a socialist, you have to condemn not only tax increases, but even maintenance of current levels as damn near criminal.

That's why.
Ha! You just don't Get It. If you raise taxes (especially on the rich) then how to hell can they create jobs?

Ever since the days of Reagan the call for lower taxes for the wealthy as a means to create jobs has been front and center.

Taxes are the lowest they've been in seventy years. As a consequence of lower taxes jobs have been created like never before. Good paying jobs. Jobs with unheard of benefits. That's known as the Trickle Down Effect, Ms JazzyP. It isn't just trickling down, it's pouring down on all the gainfully employed here in the greatest country on planet earth.

Lower taxes = lower unemployment has proved to be a winning combination for all the worker bees in the USofA. Why ruin a good thing.

Got It?
 
Old 05-01-2012, 09:26 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Metlakatla View Post
It's getting awfully shrill in here (not you, Jazzy).

I think that businesses who move their operations to other countries should move themselves and their families there as well, into the exact same type of housing that their employees are living in.
And this is coming from someone who is in AK to reap the rewards of the salmon industry then move back to the -48 the rest of the year. Mod Cut

Last edited by Rance; 05-01-2012 at 12:02 PM.. Reason: No Personal Attacks!
 
Old 05-01-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: 112 Ocean Avenue
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And this is coming from someone who is in AK to reap the rewards of the salmon industry then move back to the -48 the rest of the year. Hypocrite are we?
Good point. Half the year Met runs her business in one country (Alaska), and the other half she lives in another (Oregon).
 
Old 05-01-2012, 09:40 AM
 
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I guess that the US just need to ban computers, printers, copiers, cell phones, cad cam, CNC machines, automated assembly lines, cable TV, Internet . Lets go back to the old school way of making things, kit will create jobs but the US wouldn't be able to compete in the world market. The net has kill so many jobs, just need a warehouse with a few employees VS a box store now a days.

That alone would create millions of jobs in the US.
 
Old 05-01-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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And this is coming from someone who is in AK to reap the rewards of the salmon industry then move back to the -48 the rest of the year. Hypocrite are we?
Do you live on this forum?

Our business employs American citizens only. Where I choose to spend my winters in no concern of yours (been thinking about Costa Rica, though); but I'll go as far as to say that it has to do with parental health concerns.

What is it that you do for a living again?
 
Old 05-01-2012, 09:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by RedJacket View Post
Ha! You just don't Get It. If you raise taxes (especially on the rich) then how to hell can they create jobs?

Ever since the days of Reagan the call for lower taxes for the wealthy as a means to create jobs has been front and center.

Taxes are the lowest they've been in seventy years. As a consequence of lower taxes jobs have been created like never before. Good paying jobs. Jobs with unheard of benefits. That's known as the Trickle Down Effect, Ms JazzyP. It isn't just trickling down, it's pouring down on all the gainfully employed here in the greatest country on planet earth.

Lower taxes = lower unemployment has proved to be a winning combination for all the worker bees in the USofA. Why ruin a good thing.

Got It?
LittleJazzyP must not be seeing all the companies leaving the US for cheaper labor. Business taxes in the US are to high, why stay here when you can make more profits elsewhere. Plus the the Asian markets are the new booming world economy with 8%-10%, so why not get a pc of that pie. The growth of the Asian market have been great the last 10 years. The US growth is what 2% ya, that ain't squat.
 
Old 05-01-2012, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Anchorage
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Originally Posted by wildchild_to View Post
And this is coming from someone who is in AK to reap the rewards of the salmon industry then move back to the -48 the rest of the year. Hypocrite are we?
Labor is just so cheap in Alaska, isn't it? You really don't know what you are talking about.
 
Old 05-01-2012, 10:00 AM
 
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Labor is just so cheap in Alaska, isn't it? You really don't know what you are talking about.
Where in my post does it state I say labor is cheap in AK? Please don't be putting words into my mouth.

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Originally Posted by wildchild_to View Post
And this is coming from someone who is in AK to reap the rewards of the salmon industry then move back to the -48 the rest of the year. Hypocrite are we?
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