BP spill is already far larger than the 1989 Exxon Valdez (beaches, estimates)

[Captain Crunch]

Pretty much anyone could poke big ole holes in your crappolla.....you can never support any of your wild claims with credible links, its nothing at all but your opinions....off-the-wall as they are

You know virtually nothing actually about environmental issues because you let your politics and employment cloud what little thinking process you might still have....you just fabricate a good story is all, and your following is a bunch of fools that believe way you spout, or did til they looked a little future into your posts for facts

As far as this you keep bringing "the sky is falling"...that is nothing more than something you created in your own pee brain

You can stick it where the sun don't shine, if you are smart enough to figure out where that is

[RedJacket]

Oil is flowing out of BP's leak in the Gulf of Mexico at a rate eight times faster than officials previously acknowledged, raising worries that BP's containment efforts can do little to fight a spill that already may be six times the size of the Exxon-Valdez disaster.

BP Oil Spill: Federal Panel Says Flow Rate Far Worse Than Previous Estimates - ABC News

And this will probably continue for two more months. Unbelievable.

[Captain Crunch]

A major news story on the 3 major networks tonight is about how BP is doing everything they can to stop the flow of dead animal pictures...

BP to 50% and dropping like a rock....$17-billion in stock value loss yesterday

Speculation now is the long term cost will be 3 to 7 times the companies value

She a sinking ship, as she should be.... if ya got stock, you are screwed...!

The Brits are bitching about how we are bad-mouthing their beloved company and further devaluing it......

CARRY ON...

[GrammasCabin]

And the government we elected is just watching while BP lets their oil destroy our gulf states, our seafood industry, our wildlife, our people, and before it's over, probably our entire economy. What the 'ell is going on!

[OMMill001]

BP plan... Associated Press Analysis
BP's plan for spill reads like fiction

Names, numbers of experts, facts about Gulf -- all wrong

Thursday, June 10, 2010 02:56 AM
By Justin Pritchard, Tamara Lush and Holbrook Mohr



ASSOCIATED PRESS

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VENICE, La. -- Professor Peter Lutz is listed in BP's 2009 response plan for a Gulf of Mexico oil spill as a national wildlife expert. He died in 2005.
Under the heading "sensitive biological resources," the plan lists marine mammals including walruses, sea otters, sea lions and seals. None live anywhere near the Gulf.
The names and phone numbers of several Texas A&M University marine life specialists are wrong. So are the numbers for marine mammal stranding network offices in Louisiana and Florida, which are no longer in service.
BP PLC's 582-page regional spill plan for the Gulf, and its 52-page, site-specific plan for the Deepwater Horizon rig, are riddled with omissions and glaring errors, according to an Associated Press analysis that details how BP officials have pretty much been making it up as they go along. The lengthy plans approved by the federal government last year before BP drilled its ill-fated well vastly understate the dangers posed by an uncontrolled leak and vastly overstate the company's preparedness to deal with one.
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, reacting to the analysis, said yesterday he was angry and frustrated.
"Look, it's obvious to everybody in south Louisiana that they didn't have a plan, they didn't have an adequate plan to deal with this spill," Jindal said. "They didn't anticipate the BOP (blowout preventer) failure. They didn't anticipate this much oil hitting our coast. From the very first days, they kept telling us, 'Don't worry, the oil's not going to make it to your coast.'"
In its Deepwater Horizon plan, the British oil giant stated: "BP Exploration and Production Inc. has the capability to respond, to the maximum extent practicable, to a worst case discharge, or a substantial threat of such a discharge, resulting from the activities proposed in our Exploration Plan."
In the spill scenarios detailed in the documents, fish, marine mammals and birds escape serious harm; beaches remain pristine; water quality is only a temporary problem. And those are the projections for a leak about 10 times worse than what has been calculated for the continuing disaster.
There are other wildly false assumptions in the documents. BP's proposed method to calculate spill volume judging by the darkness of the oil sheen is way off. The internationally accepted formula would produce estimates 100 times higher.
The Gulf's loop current, which is projected to help eventually send oil hundreds of miles around Florida's southern tip and up the Atlantic coast, isn't mentioned in either plan.
The website listed for Marine Spill Response Corp. - one of two firms that BP relies on for equipment to clean a spill - links to a defunct Japanese-language page.
In early May, at least 80 Louisiana state prisoners were trained to clean birds by listening to a presentation and watching a video. It was a work force never envisioned in the plans, which contain no detailed references to how birds would be cleansed of oil.
And while BP officials and the federal government have insisted that they have attacked the problem as if it were a much larger spill, that isn't apparent from the evolving nature of the response.
Sen. Bill Nelson, a Florida Democrat, said in an e-mail yesterday that he and Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-California, have asked for a criminal investigation of some of the company's claims.
"The AP report paints a picture of a company that was making it up as it went along, while telling regulators it had the full capability to deal with a major spill," Nelson said in an e-mail. "We know that wasn't true."
This week, after BP reported the seemingly good news that a containment cap installed on the wellhead was funneling some of the gushing crude to a tanker on the surface, BP introduced a whole new set of plans aimed at capturing more oil.
The latest incarnation calls for building a larger cap, using a special incinerator to burn off some of the recaptured oil and bringing in a floating platform to process the oil being sucked away from the gushing well.
In other words, the on-the-fly planning continues.
A key failure of the plan's cleanup provisions was the scarcity of boom - floating lines of plastic or absorbent material placed around sensitive areas to deflect oil.
From the start, local officials all along the Gulf Coast have complained about a lack of supplies, particularly the heavier, so-called ocean boom. But even BP says in its regional plan that boom isn't effective in seas more than 3 to 4 feet; waves in the Gulf are often taller. And even in calmer waters, oil has swamped vital wildlife breeding grounds in places supposedly sequestered by multiple layers of boom.
The BP plans speak of thorough resources for all; there's no talk of a need to share. Still, Alabama Gov. Bob Riley said his shores were left vulnerable by Coast Guard decisions to shift boom to Louisiana when the oil threatened landfall there.
In Louisiana's Plaquemines Parish, some have complained that miles of boom in the water weren't properly anchored. AP reporters saw evidence that they're right - some lines were so broken up, they hardly impeded the slick's push to shore.
Some out-of-state contractors who didn't know local waters placed boom where tides and currents made sure it didn't work properly. And yet disorganization has dogged efforts to use local boats. In Venice, La., near where the Mississippi River empties into the Gulf, a large group of charter captains have been known to spend their days sitting around at the marina, earning $2,000 a day without ever attacking the oil.
But perhaps the most glaring error in BP's plans involves Lutz, the professor, one of several dozen experts recommended as resources to be contacted in the event of a spill.
Lutz is listed as a go-to wildlife specialist at the University of Miami. But Lutz, a sea turtle expert, left Miami almost 20 years ago to lead the marine biology department at Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton. He died four years before the plan was published.

[Captain Crunch]

RECAP....All this crap fits their business pattern perfectly...thanks for that OMM

(1) Professor Peter Lutz is listed in BP's 2009 response plan for a Gulf of Mexico oil spill as a national wildlife expert. He died in 2005.

(2) Under the heading "sensitive biological resources," the plan lists marine mammals including walruses, sea otters, sea lions and seals. None live anywhere near the Gulf.

(3) The website listed for Marine Spill Response Corp. - one of two firms that BP relies on for equipment to clean a spill - links to a defunct Japanese-language page.

About mid week the news got out that BP was viewing the oil leaving the pipe in HD, whereas the video the public was allowed to view, BP was only allowing that in standard digital.

When they were then forced to make the change so the public could see the HD video it became very clear why they had done that....huge difference

They are trying every trick possible to limit what the public and government regulators can see...

[Captain Crunch]

MountainMan....everybody now knows the guy is clueless.

He's a friggen deck hand & paint scraper...

The only thing he has been correct about in months is I ain't gonna do a friggen thing but watch BP go to its knees and beyond where they should be....and enjoy every minute of that.

I'll be out catching a ton of fish for Met to put up this summer....

The drilling will resume and production there will at some point be back to what it had been previously, as it should be, the only thing that will be different is BP won't be there killing their employees and lying about everything they do....a better producer will replace them.

Their entire mode-of-operation is just like the mafia...

[NomadicBear]

Originally Posted by GrammasCabin

And the government we elected is just watching while BP lets their oil destroy our gulf states, our seafood industry, our wildlife, our people, and before it's over, probably our entire economy. What the 'ell is going on!

The government, for reasons still unclear, is actually refusing to speak to reporters just as BP is. Federal workers have stated that they will be fired for talking to the media. With the government issuing a statement today that the leak is between 20,000-40,000 barrels per day, and perhaps much larger, one can only conclude that the situation is much more dire than they are willing to let on. There are reports that the main leak is some 7 miles away from the riser, and of a size which can only be described an unfathomable.

[GrammasCabin]

Originally Posted by NomadicBear

The government, for reasons still unclear, is actually refusing to speak to reporters just as BP is. Federal workers have stated that they will be fired for talking to the media. With the government issuing a statement today that the leak is between 20,000-40,000 barrels per day, and perhaps much larger, one can only conclude that the situation is much more dire than they are willing to let on. There are reports that the main leak is some 7 miles away from the riser, and of a size which can only be described an unfathomable.

Where'd you find this?

[Metlakatla]

Mod Cut

Excuse me, but I have barely participated in this so called pathetic excuse for a discussion (my apologies to those who have contributed something other than the gratuitous personal attacks which make this entire thread little more than an absolute worthless waste of time) and I would appreciate my name being left out of it.