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Old 05-27-2010, 01:02 AM
 
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And really, they make a big deal about the employment factor but in reality it just brings people into the area for what they can get and they don't invest in the communities much at all.
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Deltana, AK
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Err, did anyone actually read the article?

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The forest service said the approach in Tongass National Forest will move timber harvesting into roaded areas of previously clear-cut sections and away from old-growth timber in roadless areas.

Isn't this what all us tree hugging, whale saving, commie scum wanted? Granted it's likely bullsh*t, but if we're commenting on the article... Note: I'm from Washington, and not the timber industry's #1 fan...
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Old 05-27-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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Err, did anyone actually read the article?




Isn't this what all us tree hugging, whale saving, commie scum wanted? Granted it's likely bullsh*t, but if we're commenting on the article... Note: I'm from Washington, and not the timber industry's #1 fan...
Those of us with a long history here tend not to believe articles such as these or have much trust in the Forest Service, sorry.

And to answer your question, yes, I read the article.

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Old 05-27-2010, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Southeast Alaska
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The Forest Circus puts a lotta crappolla fluff in to attempt to hide their real goals...

Nothing they say related to SE Alaska is believable...
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Old 05-27-2010, 02:22 PM
 
Location: on top of a mountain
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And really, they make a big deal about the employment factor but in reality it just brings people into the area for what they can get and they don't invest in the communities much at all.
my thoughts exactly when I read the full article....just another scam to cut trees, strip things, make money and run...leaving nothing better as far as work long term, economics etc...very short term, quick money haul, I don't see it is in any way really benefiting the local villages at all long term.
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Old 05-27-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: In my own world
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Err, did anyone actually read the article?




Isn't this what all us tree hugging, whale saving, commie scum wanted? Granted it's likely bullsh*t, but if we're commenting on the article... Note: I'm from Washington, and not the timber industry's #1 fan...
Yes, I read the whole article. I'm not impressed one bit, and am actually quite disgusted that Obama, of all presidents, would approve such a thing. What I'd like to see is a halt to ALL new logging operations the country wide until there is dialogue about the horrific mess these corporate land rapists have left, and a concerted effort to clean all of the sites up and replant them, with new regulations drafted to prevent such atrocities from happening again.
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Old 05-27-2010, 02:48 PM
 
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This is what the idjits are really after:

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A few old-growth sales in roaded areas will be offered to keep the timber industry's infrastructure working while the transition is made to second-growth harvest.
And they throw up smoke screens like this to placate the whale huggers:

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One of those ideas is already under way, Pendleton said. In Hydaburg on Prince of Wales Island, totem poles are being restored after the town requested some cedar logs from the forest service.
Nothing was ever stopping the idjits over in Hydaburg from exercising their sovereign rights and cutting down their own totem logs, by the way.

What a lot of people don't get is that though these trees have a very rapid regrowth rate for the first few years, their tap roots eventually hit the permafrost under all this peat and then...these forests won't be coming back for over a hundred years.

Old growth and our salmon runs have a symbiotic relationship; these villages have always depended on salmon.
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Old 05-27-2010, 03:08 PM
 
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Stunning beauty.


YouTube - Chapter 1: The Tongass National Forest
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Old 05-27-2010, 03:15 PM
 
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NomadicBear, Met, think first....wanna rep ya but gotta spread it around first....grumble grumble don't like being forced to go to other forums just ta be able to rep good people here!
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Old 05-27-2010, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Southeast Alaska
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The timber rapists took out most all the good stuff years ago and marketed the logs in-the-round to foreign countries until that practice was banned

What remains has very little value except as pulp wood...

There is only one saw mill remaining in SE that I'm aware of....so the spin on jobs is crappolla as usual
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