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The first two show NY in the average category for K-12. The third is about college graduates, not public schools. Education Week looks like a Teacher Union rag, the 5th shows NY as average, the college board article has a very narrow focus (performance on AP exams, where NY does well because of the high proportion of Oriental and Jewish pupils), and the last has NY as about average.
So NY is average, not a top performing state for K-12. Even though it spends twice the national average amount in cost per pupil.
The point of diminishing returns was passed long, long ago.
The first two show NY in the average category for K-12. The third is about college graduates, not public schools. Education Week looks like a Teacher Union rag, the 5th shows NY as average, the college board article has a very narrow focus (performance on AP exams, where NY does well because of the high proportion of Oriental and Jewish pupils), and the last has NY as about average.
So NY is average, not a top performing state for K-12. Even though it spends twice the national average amount in cost per pupil.
The point of diminishing returns was passed long, long ago.
Where did you get that the AP scores are due to Asian and Jewish students?
Most show NY ahead of most and where does it say that Education Week is a teacher union publication? This is considering the ESL student population and biggest urban school district in the country. That graduation rate could be higher though, in spite of any educational requirement differences.
Oriental and Jewish score much higher in aptitude and achievement test than other kids. NY has a lot of them, especially NYC.
Looking at EW's purposes, it looks just like the NEA's. Leads me to believe it's either another front group like the Alliance for Quality Education or has been co-opted like the PTA.
If you look at test results quoted in the papers, leaving out the better than average AP results, the rest are clearly middling: some a bit better, some a bit worse than the US.
At least Schenectady come up with a solution to NY's worse than average graduation rate: everybody passes!
Oriental and Jewish score much higher in aptitude and achievement test than other kids. NY has a lot of them, especially NYC.
Looking at EW's purposes, it looks just like the NEA's. Leads me to believe it's either another front group like the Alliance for Quality Education or has been co-opted like the PTA.
If you look at test results quoted in the papers, leaving out the better than average AP results, the rest are clearly middling: some a bit better, some a bit worse than the US.
At least Schenectady come up with a solution to NY's worse than average graduation rate: everybody passes!
I still didn't see anything that stated that it was the reason for NY's high aptitude and achievement on AP tests and NY's graduation rate is around the national average, in which states have varying requirements for graduation.
Also, what is the deal with using Oriental, which just means Eastern in Spanish?
I still didn't see anything that stated that it was the reason for NY's high aptitude and achievement on AP tests and NY's graduation rate is around the national average, in which states have varying requirements for graduation.
Also, what is the deal with using Oriental, which just means Eastern in Spanish?
Oriental? That's the people of the Far East: China, Japan, etc. Philipinoes. Not Australians or New Zealanders, though. It's a well known term.
NYC has a very high Jewish population and has for the last hundred years. It's also always had a large Chinese population, e.g., south of Canal Street. These two groups always do better on academic measures than any others. So if a state has a disproportionately high number of them, it will rank higher on any academic measure, other things being equal.
The ethnic mixture explains or at least contributes to the difference in academic performance whether it's acknowledged or not.
Oriental? That's the people of the Far East: China, Japan, etc. Philipinoes. Not Australians or New Zealanders, though. It's a well known term.
NYC has a very high Jewish population and has for the last hundred years. It's also always had a large Chinese population, e.g., south of Canal Street. These two groups always do better on academic measures than any others. So if a state has a disproportionately high number of them, it will rank higher on any academic measure, other things being equal.
The ethnic mixture explains or at least contributes to the difference in academic performance whether it's acknowledged or not.
I understand the how the term has been used, but what I stated is the origin of the term. You hardly see or hear people use that term.
Again, there wasn't any mention of NY's AP achievement being strictly based on Jewish or Asian participation and basically, this is speculation, until otherwise noted.
Maybe, but it's as speculative as predicting the sun will rise in the east tomorrow.
At least you admit that it is speculative. That is the first step....... j/k
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