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Old 07-05-2010, 09:55 AM
 
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I can't believe people still have false hopes about this project.

Albuquerque will NEVER build a new arena. EVER.

History has proven me to be correct.
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Old 07-05-2010, 10:01 AM
 
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Albuquerque will NEVER build a new arena. EVER.

You heard it here first!
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Old 07-05-2010, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Placitas, New Mexico
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No, not now, not in the proposed location. Thank goodness.
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Old 07-05-2010, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Abu Al-Qurq
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So, when the economy rebounds, say an arena can be funded, just not downtown. Would demolishing and rebuilding a bigger better Tingley be the thing to do, or is there a part of town that would make a better case than downtown or Tingley?
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Old 07-05-2010, 05:11 PM
 
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No, not now, not in the proposed location. Thank goodness.
I guarantee you it won't be built anywhere.
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Old 07-05-2010, 05:14 PM
 
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So, when the economy rebounds, say an arena can be funded, just not downtown. Would demolishing and rebuilding a bigger better Tingley be the thing to do, or is there a part of town that would make a better case than downtown or Tingley?
This has been proposed plenty of times. It never happened and it never will.

Albuquerque just does NOT have what, say, cities like Tulsa, Omaha, and Des Moines have, which is a vision and progressive attitude toward these sorts of project.

I am not trying to be provocative. It just ain't gonna happen. Want to see a cool new arena in a mid size city? Go to Tulsa. You won't see it here in your life time.
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Old 07-06-2010, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Placitas, New Mexico
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I think it is amusing that third rank cities like Des Moines, Tulsa, and Omaha are said to have "vision and progressive attitude". I think it illustrates my point that planning for arenas on potentially vital downtown streets is retrograde, discarded urban thinking. Arenas can kill downtown life and urban fabric with their huge size, parking facilities, and part time use.
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Old 07-07-2010, 04:42 PM
 
Location: 5,400 feet
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See the College World Series thread for a discussion of Omaha. They got a new stadium because the NCAA threatented to move the CWS if they didn't replace Rosenblatt. Plus, TD Ameritrade paid a chunk toward the cost.

Tulsa has 1.1-1.2 million in the metro area, about 30% more people than ABQ. Plus, an equal or larger metro area (OKC) is only 100 miles away.

I have absolutely no problem if a private entity wants to build a new arena in ABQ with their own private funds. I'll wish them the best. If the city or some other public entity wants to build an arena with tax dollars, or guarantee bonding with tax dollars, then I'll have serious problems.
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Old 07-19-2010, 06:15 AM
 
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I think it is amusing that third rank cities like Des Moines, Tulsa, and Omaha are said to have "vision and progressive attitude". I think it illustrates my point that planning for arenas on potentially vital downtown streets is retrograde, discarded urban thinking. Arenas can kill downtown life and urban fabric with their huge size, parking facilities, and part time use.
You bring that up, but you never have an alternative. So what next? One million people in Albuquerque with no arena, no vital downtown, no jobs, no companies? Just the idea that we were not "stupid" enough to build an arena? Your argument doesn't hold water.
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Old 07-19-2010, 06:16 AM
 
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See the College World Series thread for a discussion of Omaha. They got a new stadium because the NCAA threatented to move the CWS if they didn't replace Rosenblatt. Plus, TD Ameritrade paid a chunk toward the cost.

Tulsa has 1.1-1.2 million in the metro area, about 30% more people than ABQ. Plus, an equal or larger metro area (OKC) is only 100 miles away.

I have absolutely no problem if a private entity wants to build a new arena in ABQ with their own private funds. I'll wish them the best. If the city or some other public entity wants to build an arena with tax dollars, or guarantee bonding with tax dollars, then I'll have serious problems.
Where has a private entity built a $200 million arena? Provide an example please. And with no public subsidy. I'm wating.
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