Would Rapper Ice T be Considered Black In Haiti? (move, facts, standard)
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I'm Haitian and I'll be first one to say that ice cube would be considered a mullato in Haiti and so with Chris Reid.
Mullato in Haiti means exactly what it means in America.
Half white half black or just a mix of black and white.
Thank you for clarifying that. By that definition, my mother would be considered mulatto in Haiti. Actually, she has some Native American ancestry as well. She might be considered Marabout. She is about Ice T's complexion.
Why is Portuguese not considered "White" in certain parts of the Caribbean?
Their notion of a white person is one who approximates some one of Anglo Saxon ancestry in appearance. This pattern was set by the British colonial elites who refused to accept Portuguese, or the Syrian/Lebanese, as white. So hey evolved into a separate ethnic group.
Interesting that in Trinidad, which was a Spanish colony, and where the dominant white creole group are the French (some having distant mulatto connections) Portuguese are considered white.
Thank you for clarifying that. By that definition, my mother would be considered mulatto in Haiti. Actually, she has some Native American ancestry as well. She might be considered Marabout. She is about Ice T's complexion.
True but also comes down to class to because I know some obvious mullato Haitians who hate the word mullato and would prefer to be called black. I wouldn't be surprised if a light skin man with nappy hair who grew up poor in port au prince was considered black. I know a few. Probably has a lot to do with class and location.
Their notion of a white person is one who approximates some one of Anglo Saxon ancestry in appearance. This pattern was set by the British colonial elites who refused to accept Portuguese, or the Syrian/Lebanese, as white. So hey evolved into a separate ethnic group.
Interesting that in Trinidad, which was a Spanish colony, and where the dominant white creole group are the French (some having distant mulatto connections) Portuguese are considered white.
True but also comes down to class to because I know some obvious mullato Haitians who hate the word mullato and would prefer to be called black. I wouldn't be surprised if a light skin man with nappy hair who grew up poor in port au prince was considered black. I know a few. Probably has a lot to do with class and location.
Similar thing I see in the USA. Many people who look very mixed, but consider themselves Black. Actually, the American classification of race says anyone with any African ancestry is Black. But still, I have to consider this. By most accounts, my mother is considered a Black woman in America. On the other hand, I have to wonder. She did grow up working class, and is now part of a middle class family.
Similar thing I see in the USA. Many people who look very mixed, but consider themselves Black. Actually, the American classification of race says anyone with any African ancestry is Black.
I'm sorry, but this is not true unless you are referring to long obsoleted conventions of nearly a century ago. So, if you want to qualify that with "long out-dated conventions", etc, I'll buy it. Otherwise, the only people in the United States who subscribe to the "one-drop" rule are black Americans. Most other people would described mixed race people as mixed race.
No, he's mixed race that's a fact. Technically he's mixed race!
Given the social construct which has been discussed here, there is a reason why he is viewed as Black. There people that are mixed and identify as White as well. So, there are many things to consider.
I'm sorry, but this is not true unless you are referring to long obsoleted conventions of nearly a century ago. So, if you want to qualify that with "long out-dated conventions", etc, I'll buy it. Otherwise, the only people in the United States who subscribe to the "one-drop" rule are black Americans. Most other people would described mixed race people as mixed race.
It's not even a one drop rule, which to be honest, is being overstated here. These aren't people with "one drop" of African ancestry and many times, this only came into play for those with notable yet lower percentages of African ancestry.
Also, Black people didn't create the social construct and another way to view it is that Black Americans took the construct and made it their own by including and accepting the variety that is among people of Black African descent, more so than not.
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