What is the Green Political Party??

[Frihed89]

Originally Posted by GWTJ

I'm in MN and the Secretary of State will put the names and parties of all candidates on the sample ballot 45 days before the 1st Tuesday in November on the SoS website.

Thanks to the Democratic Farmer Larbor Party!

[zeliner]

Originally Posted by 2nd trick op

In other words, eco-Fascists who seek to force their thinking on everybody else -- in the name of some imagined "greater common good".



And of course, eco-Fascists depict anyone who doesn't see it their way -- even the little guy or gal trying to run a small business hobbled by a bureaucracy that never stops growing, spending and taxing -- as a "rich Republican exploiter".

It's just not that simple.

If you're calling people of the world who are collectively concerned about Global-Warming, Nuclear Saber-Rattling, Human Rights, an ever increasing clean water shortage, and the decimation of our fisheries____"Fascists", then I'd most seriously ask you to please reconsider.

Reconsider and take the time to truly observe your environment. First begin with the quality of your tap water. Next, research the negative impact animal husbandry has on our environment and read food labels.

Finally, make a historical assessment of human obsession with aggression, violence, and war. It's all cyclical and apparently inextricable from our DNA.
It seems to be our ultimate resolution to just about any controversial encounter we seem to experience.

Usually both or all sides lose to varying degrees. It's about time for us to finally conclude that in this nuclear saturated world impaired with narcissistic world leaders, our collective fates can all be concluded by a simple whim. Nuclear proliferation should prohibited in a truly "civilized" world.

That's pretty much the goal of the Green Party! To become a more cerebral, conscientious, safer, and "civilized" world....
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BTW

Most people in business are in business purely for profit. Profit usually trumps their concern for public health and safety. That's the reason we need legal guidelines by which all businesses are governed.

Otherwise, buyer beware signs would be posted in practically every place of business in existence.

[2nd trick op]

Originally Posted by zeliner

If you're calling people of the world who are collectively concerned about Global-Warming, Nuclear Saber-Rattling, Human Rights, an ever increasing clean water shortage, and the decimation of our fisheries____"Fascists", then I'd most seriously ask you to please reconsider.

Reconsider and take the time to truly observe your environment. First begin with the quality of your tap water. Next, research the negative impact animal husbandry has on our environment and read food labels.

Finally, make a historical assessment of human obsession with aggression, violence, and war. It's all cyclical and apparently inextricable from our DNA.

I grew up in the Upstate Pennsylvania which has been ravaged by environmental short-sight, with the help of corrupt politicians with the power to pander to that short-sight. It was ordinary people, of ordinary means who set limits on this via the democratic (small 'd', please) process, and continue to clean up the mess, and I think we have enough common sense not to fall for the oversimplified alarmism peddled (via cuddly polar-bear commercials), to people too young, too impressionable, and too sheltered to recognize the limitations to what a mature economy can, and can not do.

And BTW, my father was one of those practicioners of the animal husbandry you demonize; for fifty years, he rose at 5AM to milk, and it broke his spirit that both his sons found better opportunities; this happens every day, a product of economies of scale that, unfortunately for you, favor the "factory farming" you probably rant abut.

It seems to be our ultimate resolution to just about any controversial encounter we seem to experience.

Usually both or all sides lose to varying degrees. It's about time for us to finally conclude that in this nuclear saturated world impaired with narcissistic world leaders, our collective fates can all be concluded by a simple whim. Nuclear proliferation should prohibited in a truly "civilized" world.

That's pretty much the goal of the Green Party! To become a more cerebral, conscientious, safer, and "civilized" world....
************
BTW

Most people in business are in business purely for profit. Profit usually trumps their concern for public health and safety. That's the reason we need legal guidelines by which all businesses are governed.

Otherwise, buyer beware signs would be posted in practically every place of business in existence.

None of us face a "collective" fate; our individual destinies, and the power to accept, or avoid them, is largely up to us. We know that we face individual perils, and it's up to us to mitigate them, mostly by our individual actions. But in some cases a collectively-financed "safety net" is desired, and most of us see it as necessary. However, there remains a fair-sized component at the bottom of the Leftist coalition which has no interest in anything save what it can steal from somebody else, and local policing and better identification, stigmatization, and exclusion of this growing cancer, which is most visible in the streets of the Failing State of California, is an absolute necessity.

You put forth a claim that both, most, or all sides are threatened by the pluralistic approach you don't trust, but then proceed to crown yourself, and a small, but loud and militant minority in agreement with your supposedly-"enlightened" absolutes, as judge, jury, and court of final appeal.

[zeliner]

Originally Posted by 2nd trick op

I grew up in the Upstate Pennsylvania which has been ravaged by environmental short-sight, with the help of corrupt politicians with the power to pander to that short-sight. It was ordinary people, of ordinary means who set limits on this via the democratic (small 'd', please) process, and continue to clean up the mess, and I think we have enough common sense not to fall for the oversimplified alarmism peddled (via cuddly polar-bear commercials), to people too young, too impressionable, and too sheltered to recognize the limitations to what a mature economy can, and can not do.

And BTW, my father was one of those practicioners of the animal husbandry you demonize; for fifty years, he rose at 5AM to milk, and it broke his spirit that both his sons found better opportunities; this happens every day, a product of economies of scale that, unfortunately for you, favor the "factory farming" you probably rant abut.



None of us face a "collective" fate; our individual destinies, and the power to accept, or avoid them, is largely up to us. We know that we face individual perils, and it's up to us to mitigate them, mostly by our individual actions. But in some cases a collectively-financed "safety net" is desired, and most of us see it as necessary. However, there remains a fair-sized component at the bottom of the Leftist coalition which has no interest in anything save what it can steal from somebody else, and local policing and better identification, stigmatization, and exclusion of this growing cancer, which is most visible in the streets of the Failing State of California, is an absolute necessity.

You put forth a claim that both, most, or all sides are threatened by the pluralistic approach you don't trust, but then proceed to crown yourself, and a small, but loud and militant minority in agreement with your supposedly-"enlightened" absolutes, as judge, jury, and court of final appeal.

Thus far, it appears that you've either misunderstood me, or you're attempting to insert some form of estranged narrative criticizing my assessment of the Green Party and its objectives.

At this point, all I can do is attempt to empathize with your father's plight and the subsequent unfortunate consequences your family was forced to endure.

Our planet indeed faces many serious and challenging environmental problems for the future.
All we can do is attempt to save our species from ourselves!

BTW

If an all out nuclear war ever takes place, then rest assured, our collective fates will all be relatively the same....Don't even think of it any other way!

There will be certain doom for most of earth's inhabitants. All we need is one narcissistic world leader to suddenly become unhinged for some whimsical reason.....

[2nd trick op]

Time to step down from your high moral horse and recognize that most of us who subscribe to "conservative" values don't need (or want) your watery faux sympathy. Many of us who live closer to the heartland maintain some ties to our background by, for example, growing a "cash crop" of corn or soybeans, and we don't need some sheltered 13-year-old with a head full of Green Doctrine, and no concept of the processes that put food on his/her table at a low price made possible by mass production and distribution.

One needs only to spend a few minutes at a site such as man.com (if one can endure it) to recognize that the spin-doctors at that site want their over-sheltered and immature clientele to view themselves as disempowered, and to peddle their supposed influence with Big Brother/Sister as a way for the kiddies to get their way against a more mature villain -- depicted as Absolute Evil.

Fortunately, within a few years, most of them will get a better education, via Real Life 101

[zeliner]

Originally Posted by 2nd trick op

Time to step down from your high moral horse and recognize that most of us who subscribe to "conservative" values don't need (or want0 your watery faux sympathy. Many of us who live closer to the heartland maintain some ties to our background by, for example, growing a "cash crop" of corn or soybeans, and we don't need some sheltered 13-year-old with a head full of Green Doctrine, and no concept of the processes that put food on his/her table at a low price made possible by mass production and distribution.

One needs only to spend a few minutes at a site such as man.com (if one can endure it) to recognize that the spin-doctors at that site want their over-sheltered and immature clientele to view themselves as disempowered, and to peddle their supposed influence with Big Brother/Sister as a way for the kiddies to get their way against a more mature villain -- depicted as Absolute Evil.

Fortunately, within a few years, most of them will get a better education, via Real Life 101

Currently, our earth is experiencing a most certain crisis. Our ecosystem is being quite negatively impacted upon by greenhouse gases, toxic fertilizers, and the burning of fossil fuels.

Moving at our current rate, by 2060, neither our rivers or lakes will be able to provide potable water.

Your "RealLife 101" course seems just a tad too simplistic to meet the challenge...

[2nd trick op]

Originally Posted by zeliner

Currently, our earth is experiencing a most certain crisis. Our ecosystem is being quite negatively impacted upon by greenhouse gases, toxic fertilizers, and the burning of fossil fuels.

Moving at our current rate, by 2060, neither our rivers or lakes will be able to provide potable water.

Your "RealLife 101" course seems just a tad too simplistic to meet the challenge...

And only the surrender of more aspects of our personal freedoms to Big Green Brother/Sister can "save" us? Yes or No?

[observer53]

Originally Posted by hikernut

In Arizona I believe you need to have a party affiliation in order to vote in any primary elections (and only for the party you are affiliated with). You can be declared independent, of course, but will only be able to vote in general elections in that case.

That's true only in presidential primaries. In other primaries, registered independents can vote the ballot of the party they select.

[hikernut]

Originally Posted by observer53

That's true only in presidential primaries. In other primaries, registered independents can vote the ballot of the party they select.

Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize that.