A question for folks that regularly cross into Mexico (Tucson: tax, living)

[Arizona Bound]

JMHO...
With all the mexican illegals that sneak over here, then send
back millions of US dollars each year.. and with our own country
having many, many wonderful & beautiful places to go and visit/
vacation ..which would help/boost our economy, rather than give
even more to mexico's economy.. with all the tax free US dollars,
NAFTA, millions of dollars via mexico exporting to US, I think we
should give America a try when it comes to vacations and give our
own economy a boost... yes, it's cheap living there, but there is
a downside to everything. JMHO...

[sierraAZ]

Originally Posted by Arizona Bound

JMHO...
With all the mexican illegals that sneak over here, then send
back millions of US dollars each year.. and with our own country
having many, many wonderful & beautiful places to go and visit/
vacation ..which would help/boost our economy, rather than give
even more to mexico's economy.. with all the tax free US dollars,
NAFTA, millions of dollars via mexico exporting to US, I think we
should give America a try when it comes to vacations and give our
own economy a boost... yes, it's cheap living there, but there is
a downside to everything. JMHO...

Hey, if you heat up the ocean by San Diego I can consider it for some of the trips. Until then that's not a beach in my book.

[Finger Laker]

you should be fine at rocky point - however, there should be great caution going into border towns - it's so bad there with kidnappings right now many companies consider the risk unisurable on their kidnap & ransom policies ......... mexico is considered higher risk than columbia, argentina and even iraq

[sierraAZ]

The drug wars are the problem in the border towns. As far as tourists are concerned, the only problem is the possibility of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, nothing else.

[Finger Laker]

just being there now is the wrong place at the wrong time - the kidnapping stats don't lie

even a poor american is rich to a border mexican

travel intelligently in all cities and 100% avoid towns on the border

[sierraAZ]

Originally Posted by Finger Laker

just being there now is the wrong place at the wrong time - the kidnapping stats don't lie

even a poor american is rich to a border mexican

travel intelligently in all cities and 100% avoid towns on the border

To each his own. I don't see reasons to worry about kidnapping and there's never been any evidence for it happening at least along our border in AZ.

[Finger Laker]

there's tons of evidence of it happening along the entire border - since 2003 it's up some ungodly percentage

obviously tijuana and jaurez are the top 2 culprits - however, nogales is still listed in the state departments travel alert as a place to take extra precaution when visiting

as stated earlier - mexico is the #1 nation in the world for per capita kidnappings

i personally don't understand what kind of draw you can get from any of the border towns to make you want to take any risk - they've always seemed dirty & run down to me as it is

[sierraAZ]

Originally Posted by Finger Laker

nogales is still listed in the state departments travel alert as a place to take extra precaution when visiting

I know it is - because of the RECENT DRUG WARS! And even those shootings don't take place in the tourist area, but I would agree caution is advisable at this time.

as stated earlier - mexico is the #1 nation in the world for per capita kidnappings

Show me evidence about the number of Americans kidnapped! Show me just ONE case in Nogales; ONE case in Rocky Point! I hate it when I see fear-mongers like you discouraging people from traveling! And no, I’m not a Mexican and I don’t rent a condo there, for the record.

[Finger Laker]

here is a tucson women kidnapped and taken to nogales

Kidnapped woman found in Nogales, Son.

here is the article from Oct when Nogales was added to the state departments warning area

Gunbattles, kidnappings prompt State Dept. warning about Nogales, Son. | IMMIGRATION & BORDER

they have also reported one non-natural death of a US citizen in Nogales in the past couple of years

i'm not saying that it's as dangerous as tijuana or jaurez right now - it's not even close

however, as the drug traffic picks up nogales will start to heat up as well ........ it's inevitable that the tactics spread and there is data to lead everyone to believe the trend is starting to pick up in Nogales (see the state dept adding them in Oct)

I'm far from a fear monger - in fact I despise the politics of fear

I would definitely not discourage anyone from visiting rocky point - use caution, but go for it - it's not on any state department list and you can hit the fish market, the beach, etc

but nogales?! - I can't think of a single good reason to go there - there's nothing there that you can't easily get here - why risk it?

[KarmaPhx]

Originally Posted by Arizona Bound

JMHO...
With all the mexican illegals that sneak over here, then send
back millions of US dollars each year.. and with our own country
having many, many wonderful & beautiful places to go and visit/
vacation ..which would help/boost our economy, rather than give
even more to mexico's economy.. with all the tax free US dollars,
NAFTA, millions of dollars via mexico exporting to US, I think we
should give America a try when it comes to vacations and give our
own economy a boost... yes, it's cheap living there, but there is
a downside to everything. JMHO...

Rocky point is the closest beach to Arizona, and it's much much nicer than most of the beaches in California.